N9TE Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 That guy looking for a 505 in the other forum got me to thinking. We're going through an interesting time for our cars. Within the 200,000 people community I live in (West Seattle), I know of exactly four Peugeots. Two are owned by an enthusiast (405 Mi16 & 505 V6 5sp), one walking wounded beater and my 87 turbo. I can go months without seeing another Peugeot. This ain't Detroit where Japanese cars are rare. Seattle was one of the top markets for Peugeot, along with NJ (Peugeot NA HQ), SF/Bay area and maybe LA. It took me 18 months of searching to find all 6 manuals (non-crapola photocopied) for my car. 3 years to find a "jumbo" format fiche reader. Peugeot Pete (RIP) gave me the fiches. Hell, any of this stuff I couldn't find today no matter what. There used to be numerous dealers who could get parts. Then there were always dealers going out of business having sales. You could always stock up on parts. Aside from Skeeter Tom back east, when was the last time you saw something worth a crap on eBay? I bet there are less than a dozen in junk yards in the PNW. Victor had to go across the country to find his car. All is OK with my car. Runs and looks great. I need no parts. But, I just feel some line has been crossed in terms of rarity. Will this translate into decent asking prices for our cars. No. Never gonna happen. That sucks 'cause if that were the case, some market would spring up to service it. I have my car insured, but it someone totals it, I'm never going to get the kind of car that was lost. My advice is to buy nice 505s today. They ain't gonna be available tomorrow. Hmmm... Maybe it's time to start a 505 registry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcal505 Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 i agree. these days you dont see many peugeots. there are about 16-18 other ones in the small town where i live, Alameda, CA. Here's a SMALL example of what you may see walking around my town... Here's the most active 505 around town(besides mine ) ..this guy also owns a red 405, and that grey 85 sti that was featured on jalopnik.com me and him chat about our cars sometimes when we run into eachother. heres the GS that drives around town all the time, without USA tags...pshhh...and they pull me over for not having a front CA plate!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peugeottogo Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 We are a definite minority group of Peugeot owners. I never see a Peugeot in my area here in Monterey County except for by buddies 87 STX. Up until a few years ago I'd see several, but today its ether my buddies car or mine! My fleet of Peugeot's is dwindling to just one. Keeping several of these on the road is taxing, so I have a large parts supply for my 81 TD to keep it going. I really don't expect to see any 70-80's model Peugeot's every becoming a collectable candidate. A registry would be a neat idea just to account how many Peugeot's of this era are still on the road. It really is unfortunate that we don't see Peugeot in North America. My Citroen friend has a 2000 Peugeot 406 coupe in his collection and it doesn't get driven since it was requested by the highway patrol to be ether exported or destroyed. I’ll continue enjoying my 81 TD until it becomes inefficient to keep. Everything works like it should and has that plush hedistic ride. It has been the cheapest 505 I’ve owned out of fifteen, at a cost of .23 cents a mile which includes initial cost to purchase, yearly registration, insurance, maintenance and depreciation if any by now. Well, back out for a drive, Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcal505 Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 wow jeff, 406? where is this guy? any pics of the car? is it registered in mexico? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugsley Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 It took me 18 months of searching to find all 6 manuals (non-crapola photocopied) for my car. 3 years to find a "jumbo" format fiche reader. Peugeot Pete (RIP) gave me the fiches. Hell, any of this stuff I couldn't find today no matter what. There used to be numerous dealers who could get parts. Then there were always dealers going out of business having sales. You could always stock up on parts. Aside from Skeeter Tom back east, when was the last time you saw something worth a crap on eBay? I bet there are less than a dozen in junk yards in the PNW. Hmmm... Maybe it's time to start a 505 registry. You wont like this, but I found a complete factory manual set, body,engine(s),drivetrain, etc in a newspaper I picked up in a hick area. Guy wanted $50 and he couldnt believe in a obsolete area he found a buyer. As for the dealers, there has to be NOS parts out there, I read in a Hemmings about a SAAB guy that obtained tons of old NOS parts by cqalling dealers. I tried the former Peugeot dealer here in town, they didnt have any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 My Citroen friend has a 2000 Peugeot 406 coupe in his collection and it doesn't get driven since it was requested by the highway patrol to be ether exported or destroyed... Sounds like Ron. It would pain me to have all those unregister-able cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peugeottogo Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 You can put the Peugeot 406 next to his Citroen BX in the same boat. You being a citroen mechanic, you must know Richard Bonfond of Sacramento and Lon Price of Santa Cruz. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Turbo Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 lol just after my uncle gave me the 505 turbo i went for a ride in his nova. the only other 505 i've ever seen was at a used car dealership down the road. ironicaly it was parked next to the same car as my mom drives in the same red, 92 volkswagen gti so i saw that as a sign i need to fix this car. other than that, never seen a peugeot on the roads. I'm so excited, but I need mad help to get it going, I know nothing about this car. I'm used to 6 cylinders, fwd and it positioned horizontaly. going to be WIERD to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcal505 Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 it wont take you much time to adapt to the peugeot. just if you have any problems (that you cant fix), get ready to make a extra fund in the bank just for "peugeot issues" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 deleted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohms Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 hmmm. peugeots i know of burgundy diesel (lookin pretty worn, but still driven) is usually parked a couple blocks over from me theres a black v6 or turbo sitting in a parking lot corner 1 block from me (owner left a note on my windshield once, we chatted, he's an old guy and just has the pug sitting there for maybe 2-3 years now i forget) used to see the blue v6 that was on ebay a lil while ago - either at ramsey peugeot or on the nj highways and then the half dozen or so sitting at ramsey peugeot oh, and theres a wagon on the upper west side near columbia u. i seen 2 or 3x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EUROTRASH Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Aside from Skeeter Tom back east, when was the last time you saw something worth a crap on eBay? If I had to describe Ebay's 505 junk accurately I'd get kicked out of the forum for improper behavior. I'm keeping my 505 no matter what, and I've been stocking up on parts for the past eight years so that one day (hopefully soon) I may restore it. Unfortunately the restoration is again on hold, for a good reason this time. I can either restore the car and use it as my daly driver, or NOT restore the car and buy a new car. (can't do both) I've chosen to buy a new car, this will protect the 505 and give me a break from the 80's, I really do need something new and reliable. What I haven't collected over the years are engine parts, I'm sure this will bite me in the ass one day. One thing though, some people have cars from the 1920's, if they can keep those f@#*ing things running we sure as hell can keep our 505 running... lets not despair just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryancohnracing Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Our cars have several issues: Too love a car like ours you have to be an independent thinker. This usually means we are also of the type to research, work on our own cars, things like that. The master mechanics for our cars did not have a chance to pass on their knowledge. There are a few still in the game but not enough. Our cars don't have SEX appeal that a Healey or XKE or whatever has. Thus no baby boomer are going to buy them at Barrett Jackson, no one is going to spend $50,000 to restore one and so on. None of us are willing or able to ship our cars across the country of border to a specialist, like happens to Healey's or XKE's or whatever. That is the only way a Peugeot specialist shop would survive today. It'd have to offer regular service, body repair, mods, restoration and so on. There jut aren't enough of us of that level to make it a go. I plan to support those that support us as much as possible. I need a fuel pump for example. I can but it from any number of places but will buy from Brian, Javal or WH whenever possible. If we do not support them they won't be able to support us. When its time for a engine rebuild mine will go to Nick in VT. Hopefully that is a long way off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505T Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Our cars have several issues: Too love a car like ours you have to be an independent thinker. This usually means we are also of the type to research, work on our own cars, things like that. The master mechanics for our cars did not have a chance to pass on their knowledge. There are a few still in the game but not enough. Our cars don't have SEX appeal that a Healey or XKE or whatever has. Thus no baby boomer are going to buy them at Barrett Jackson, no one is going to spend $50,000 to restore one and so on. None of us are willing or able to ship our cars across the country of border to a specialist, like happens to Healey's or XKE's or whatever. That is the only way a Peugeot specialist shop would survive today. It'd have to offer regular service, body repair, mods, restoration and so on. There jut aren't enough of us of that level to make it a go. I plan to support those that support us as much as possible. I need a fuel pump for example. I can but it from any number of places but will buy from Brian, Javal or WH whenever possible. If we do not support them they won't be able to support us. When its time for a engine rebuild mine will go to Nick in VT. Hopefully that is a long way off! Speaking of Nick....Nick, did you by any chance buy the champagne coloured 505 Turbo that was for sale not too long ago. Speaking as one who was in the fold but lost his Turbo tragically, I must say that I echo a lot of the sentiments here...I have seen articles on Tatra owners that drive across North America to Alaska...so I suppose 505 ownership has to step up a level into actual maintenance if the hobby is to be sufficiently preserved. I wish I could find a car in the condition mine was is...MINT I tell ya...maybe when I am done with my Mercedes projects I can give my attention back to my first love. I wish the parts availability was as good as old Benzes, its amazing how good the Mercedes classic center is when it comes to sourcing parts. It obviously means lots of $$$ but if you want it badly enough, you will get it. I saw a Turbo at the mechanics down the street and nearly fell down with shock they are so rare in TX...I walked over and asked if it was for sale...shop manager was a bit aloof so I just let it go...didn't even tell me what they were servicing it for...it stayed there for about 2 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.