N9TE

How was the fitment for this? I just took my hose off and it's roached. I don't have the time to wait for the club505.fr units to become available.

I just pulled the alternator on my 86 turbo... It was a GM unit. Not stock, but worked great.

You can see the 10mm bolt holes in the spoiler. That's how it's connected on my cars. Yours is a pre-86 so I don't know if you have the holes that were drilled at the factory for them. You may have to drill them yourself.

Do you have a list to the project? Perhaps on club505.fr? For now, mine are holding, but I hear that eventually they will fail. There are no longer available from the factory?

Hey! I've seen you over at club505.fr! Great site. I try to routinely cruise it. Your English is pretty good and you don't have to worry. It is much better than any of our user's French. I took 4 years of French in school and have tried to pick it up. However, it's a very difficult language for us. I hear Spanish, Chinese and Vietnamese every day, but never Français! You and everybody from club505.fr are most welcome here. Are you guys trying to duplicate the factory effort with the turbo to AFM hose or something "more modern" with off-the-shelf bits: http://tinyurl.com/3axa4pz ? Feel free to browse and post at will. We really love to hear from people who come from where our cars came from. A couple of questions for you: 1. Peugeot seems to have made the 505 "disappear" from nearly all references. Are they now ashamed of their last rear-wheel drive car? Sometimes our cars feel like one of Stalin's lieutenants being air-brushed our of official pictures after being murdered in their sleep. 2. What do you guys (club505 members) think of Citröens and other French cars? Most North American owners like Citröens. Renaults, less so. 3. Is there an on-line French or British dealer that is willing to ship to North America? It would be nice to look up part numbers, buy Peugeot Boutique merchandise, etc. 4. Every few years there is a rumor that Peugeot will come back to America. If you were a betting man, what would you put the likelihood of that happening? The sad array of car choices we have is truly depressing! Keep making awesome French cars and cute girls! Outstanding car of yours! Feel free to flood us with pictures. There can never be enough 505 pictures.

Electrical stuff is pretty easy. Clean up the grounding trees. If you can't or don't want to do the work, find some English car guys. Ask them who would get that stuff working on MGs or whatnot. Peugeot stuff is pretty standard in the electrical department. Any decent auto electric shop should be able to get it going with a minimal amount of fuss.

Ha. Well, at least it didn't rust away in some barn somewhere or lose its engine with some zit faced Honda Powah Crewz Boy at the wheel! The only real for a race car to retire. Glad you're OK.

Oh for F's sake! Not even cool. On the upside, this is a tight-as-hell little community and I have RSS feeds for most/all local Peugeot stuff. If he tries to sell a car, etc. we'll know.

James, might be something you can verify... I was poking around the Peugeot-L website and ran across this guy (who is evidently in WA from the looks of his license plate) and he has bolted up what he says are Volvo 245 calipers to a 86 turbo. Being an 86 means, of course that he isn't working with an ABS car. Pretty interesting. I'll probably be doing the fronts on my 86 soon. From what I saw out there, there are a fair amount of options for parts for the 85+ non ABS turbo cars. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/peugeot-L/ph...707991/pic/list

Ya, I didn't know if you were yourself a reseller. My rebuilt calipers were of my own doing. They functioned well enough, but the handbrake mechanism (ratcheting teeth center part of the pistons) were not touched. I'm pretty sure these were the culprit. Although I figured out how to disassemble the pistons, you can't buy any of the parts. I'm just happy to have a 505 with a handbrake as good as my BMWs!

Good info Nick. I got a pair of Nastra's and a Beck/Arnley closeout from RockAuto. Have you run the Centrics before? I did it! Trouble was, I had a bad caliper and a mis-adjusted caliper. The bad one was one of the ones I tried to rebuild. I think the racheting teeth were roached. The other one was mis-aligned. It was 1/8th off. New cables and new calipers properly adjusted and the handbrake works perfectly. 10 clicks holds me on my steep driveway just fine. Notes for some future people searching the archives on doing your rear brakes/handbrakes. 1. Take a couple of pictures of the hardware before you disassemble. I can do it in my sleep now, but if this is your first or second job on these it's easy to get the spring wrong. 2. Use a good quality high-temp caliper grease on the slides and the rear nylon mount. 3. To avoid breaking your nylon caliper mount, be careful when you disassemble. a. Remove the spring first starting with the hook end. b. Actuate the handbrake lever at the caliper a little bit so the nylon mount comes off without any significant effort. If you're using any degree of force, you're close to breaking it. 4. Spring for new cables. They're kind of a PITA to install (especially on the end that connects to the handbrake lever), but they're well engineered cables and are well worth the money. You get a lot of bang for the buck. 5. Attach the cables as the first thing you do when re-installing the calipers. Damn near impossible to do it once they're bolted up. 6. Start threading the hydrolic hard line before you bolt the caliper up. You should be able to do it by hand and avoid any possibly of cross threading it. 7. Use a torque wrench for the caliper (32 ft lbs) and wheels (59 ft lbs for the alloys). 8. Bleed the brakes and adjust the handbrake with jackstands under the shock mount with the suspension settled. 9. Adjust the handbrake after bleeding. 10. In relaxed position (handbrake off) the caliper handbrake levers should be just touching the nylon mount stop. Then back off the adjusting nut 1 turn. Cinch up the lock nut. Both ends (left and right) should have the same amount of cable exposed at the point where it's adjusted. Who's your favorite retailer for Centric stuff? A google search reveals everybody and their mother has a few Centric items, but their catalog has a fair amount of stuff for our cars.

So I'm waiting for wife to come home so she can help me bleed the brakes. I've got the car perched on 4 cinder blocks. I don't recommend this. I'm trying to get the emergency brakes working. Taking another run at it. I don't expect any help here or anywhere for that matter. Most people don't care if their ebrake doesn't work or is very marginal. However, there are lots of hills here and it MUST work for me. New cables Rebuilt calipers I'll let you know when I get it.

Hey Bruce, Outside of a local showing up, one day's notice isn't really enough for most of us to act on that. Hope it all goes well and you do have some neat off-brand cars to report of. Best of luck!

Looks great! Keep it looking good.

That's sick on the adhesive properties! I'd say honestly, either looks good in their own way. The chrome looks more "original", but the black doesn't look bad at all. Since we don't concourse judge these cars and you are moving in the right direction, it should just be a personal preference. Ya, the original color looks awesome when done up right. That way, you won't have to jamb it. Just remember, after the paint fully cures (6 months), they get religious and anal about clay/correction/wax regiment. Autopia is a good place to learn. People will be complimenting it for years.

Cool! You just cut-to-fit? What does that stuff run? That car is gonna be very nice when you get a coat of paint on it. Your attention to detail is whats making the difference. What's your long term plan for it?

Hmmm... I couldn't find it in my microfiches. You need to email Rob Courter @ [email protected]. He is the man when it comes to parts.

Year? BA10/5 or 4HP22?

Ya, will do. Wish I knew who won that auction!

No. Don't give up. Take you time. One weekend, go at one series of connections, next weekend go at another series. There IS a fault, problem is the LED error codes are pretty lame. All sensors (at water tank), potentiometer, primary ignition (distributor, ignitor), all associated harnesses. After you have done every connection, go at the ECUs (there are two - one for ignition one for fuel) and *carefully* clean connections there. Also, hit the ground trees (two in front by headlight buckets, two attached to steering column. Then there's the battery ground. Have fun, you'll be an expert by the time you're done.

Looking good! You have plans to dyno the car after you get the engine broken in? I'd be curious to see what you pull. You're going to put a bigger turbo on it with that sexy custom exhaust, no? When do you anticipate firing that bad boy up?

Speaking of the "stripes". They are actually stickers. There was a set for sale on eBay a couple of years ago and I got out-bid. I have since found a company that will make new ones if I can provide a suitable template. Anybody have a PDF file or one that was removed in one piece? If so, I'll have a few sets made up.

Not too much at all actually. Peugeot owners tend to be of two basic types these days. 1) Turn-key drivers that help scrounge parts and depend on a mechanic to make it all happen and 2) Youngsters with neither the budgets, expertise or experience to make it go. Most people who own Peugeots would rather own other cars, but happen on them because of their price which again swells the ranks of type 2. Spotting me with both 20 years and experience, I'd say you're good to go on this. I'd do it if I were so inclined. I'm "saving" my best wrenching years for a Citroem SM and getting by nowdays just rebuilding a N9TE to stock specs. The biggest challenge I saw with the 505 chassis is the small engine bay (lengthwise). The car is really designed for an inline 4. The Toyota six I measured up would require hacking which I'm lothe to do. I'd say get going. All you've mentioned suggests that it would be a nice package if executed properly. I'm not a diesel fan, but can really appreciate good, well thought-out work. As far as experts go, the only guy I can recommend who is more versed in this would be Mike Aube on the Peugeot-L list. Goto groups.yahoo.com and join the "Peugeot-L" group. It's the oldest Peugeot group on the internet and a lot of good writings have occured over there in the last 15 years. Good luck and keep us posted!

I could see myself doing something like this.

To the best of my knowledge, only a couple of drivetrain transplants have ever occurred with 505s. With English speakers, even less. And of those, it's been all-in-the-family. Most swaps I've seen are limited by the skill, determination, resources and bank account of the person in charge. You'll need at least three of the four. I looked into swapping a 7M-GTE into a 505 (3.0L inline Toyota six) into a 505 and after a lot of measuring, I decided against it. What's your experience level with a project like this?