Trevor

that is one beautiful 505!

OH MY. That would be just about the coolest thing ever to own, esp in the states where ppl would just look at it like "what the hell is that?". imagine how fast that woiuld be - 2000lbs and 350 hp, thats almost laughable...

Sorry to hear about this V-M :-( . We're all hoping that the next try is a success!

Sounds pretty cool! What about the jetronic-effect ? does it simulate random power loss due to shorts in the wiring harness? ahah.. sorry i had to. building a virtual N9t does sound like an awesome idea. that would be a lot of fun to play with. I assume we'd have to purchase the software?

Maybe it's the french way of rubbing in their success? haha "We're tired of beating your asses, we'll be back later."

timing was set at 10 base, it does advance when revved so microswitch and all that is a-ok. I just advanced it to 12 base, we'll see how that works ;-). I guess it depends on what you call midrange, but the danielson cam does help from about 4000 on up to redline normally, below that range isn't so hot. It pulls ok in the very high 3000 range, so i guess it would be safe to say it helps mid-high range. It definitely doesn't have the balls of the stock cam down low.

haha, good points. I agree that its ridiculous that i'd get no gains out of that cam. It doesn't make sense that i'd need high boost to see gains. When i changed it the first time it was only the cam i changed, nothing else. For reference, the power numbers: Stock cam vs dani cam: (11 psi) Stock vs Dani 166.6 hp vs 165.5 hp 200 ft lbs. vs 170 ft lbs. Somethin is not right. Wideband would be wonderful.... and the ability to change fuel maps, timing maps, mmmmmmm. I've made some changes on the car (boost, timing), more info soon hopefully..

Yea i try to trust the gtech as little as possible but the big problem here is that seat-of-pants feel really confirms the poor numbers. So do you have a cam in the works from shadbolt? Maybe it does need the extra boost to surpass the limitations of the stock cam and start seeing performance gains... But for some reason i feel that in this case, the performance cam should increase performance regardless of boost level. Maybe this just isn't true though. I'm definitely going to turn up the boost a little and see how it roars. I shouldn't say it's "SLOW" because well.. it's really not, I just had much higher hopes for it. It was less of a 'performance gain' as it was a 'performance change' if that makes any sense... :-p

Has anybody tried to have any camshafts made up for the 505 turbo other than the danielson spec cam? I recently installed the danielson cam back into my car and wasn't too impressed with the results. I still have some more testing to do with it before i make any final conclusions...but here's the story... With stock boost levels and 10 btdc timing, the comparison of the stock and danielson cam just doesn't look very good. Gtech shows a loss of about 25 ft lbs peak, and WAY more usable torque down low. There is torque loss all the way until 4600 rpm, and even after 4600, torque isn't sifnificantly higher than stock. It revs slightly harder through the high rpms and doesn't die off all the way to 6000, however it doesn't get anywhere quicker than before, and i've lost gobs of torque and drivability. I would expect torque not to PEAK 30 ft lbs below stock levels with a good performance cam... The 'feeling' of the car confirms all of the numbers. It actually feels slower than it did before, but does pull a little bit harder 'way' up high. This isn't what i remembered from the last time i installed it. The conditions were different back then however. I was running about 17 psi boost on the stock cam, and switched over to the danielson cam (which ran about 15 -16 psi up high with the same boost setting... it likes to suck that air in up high!). The results were very good as i gained 25+ horsepower and about 25 ft lbs torque all the way from about 4300rpm to 6,000. I did lose a bit down low of course but considering the gains it was nothing to complain about. I would have expected the same results (% wise) from lower boost levels, however what i got was just slower car with less usable power almost across the board. Is this to be expected? It seems to me like the response of boost changes should be almost linear (within a reasonable range, ignoring effects of heat and such). So why would a cam respond well to high boost and not to low boost? Maybe i'm overlooking something. If anything i expected this cam to boost performance quite a bit more than normal, considering that after the motor rebuild and all the work i did the car was running excellent numbers compared to its previous life. It was running about 200 ft lbs and 165 hp to the wheels at 11 psi boost. This is comparable to running it at about 14 or so psi back in the day before the rebuild/porting/intercooler, etc with the stock cam. So there have been improvements here and there and i thought the danielson cam would also reflect these. So... any ideas, comments? I've only run 1 gtech run with the new camshaft, but i plan on runing more, and upping the boost a bit to see what happens. At this point i would almost rather put the stock cam in, but i don't like how bad it tails off up high. I was thinking of an 'in between' version that would retain some of the low end torque but allow the motor to rev up with a vengence.

hahah!! Oh man i love it. I think i want to graffiti my car with "this car sucks" as well. The french fountain of youth, well put!

Yea they don't like to stay tight that's for sure. I'm not sure if the nuts from the manifold-turbo back off 'normally' but i've had that happen too. When i first got my car there were literally no nuts holding the turbo onto the manifold.... how it ran as well as it did i don't know but whoever put the turbo back on last hadn't done it right. I luckily sourced some nuts along with a turbo from the local pick'n'pull. And yes, getting the turbo off without taking the motor mount off is quite the ordeal.. Oh man the obscenities that i yelled when doing that. I had to use the lower brace itself to 'ratchet' one of the fasteners off.. i'll never forget that. haha. That lower brace never went back on... I have blind faith that things will be ok without it.

Rabin, try a program called Virtual Dub for video editing. It should be able to do simple things like conversion and saving sections etc. http://www.virtualdub.org/

Rabin, How about a PRV V6 TWIN TURBO! :-D

SO SEXY, JUST LIKE PEUGEOTS

very cool Metako! Keep us updated. I installed an LSD diff in my car when i did the rebuild. Haven't had a chance to really use it yet tho.. ;-). Also there's been some talk here about lowering springs so let us know what you come up with for that too!

Metako, welcome to the forum! It's really cool what you've done with your 505. I've heard a lot of good things about those sr20dets. If you have time it'd be awesome if you'd post a thread with some more pictures and a little info.

The wheels: Revolution RFX's i think? that car is one of the most hilarious rice jobs i've seen in a while.

very nice! I'd love to have a nice ecu in the 505!

yq39r have you seen the euro style double barreled headlights? now THOSE are sweeeeet. The center light is smaller than the outside light and it retains more of that 'mean' look while still using the more interesting separate beams. check this out: (just the headlights, you can ignore the rest ;-) ) http://leverdie.club.fr/505_France/505_tur.../505_2_avd2.jpg

Any luck resolving this issue?

V-M: 118% injector pulse is an imaginary concept as you probably know. Maybe that number is interpreting something different than we assume? Maybe 118% of 'normal' enrichment? is the car running a wideband o2 sensor in the loop for enrichment feedback? There must be more to this. Any ideas?

V-M, have you ever been able to test the 804 injectors in the same manner?

Yea, what that does is it EATS all the oncoming air, so basically it creates zero drag around the mouth. Nice links Toni! There are some awesome pictures on that site

right on! Look at all those different wheels!!! That makes me jealous.

My newly rebuild motor with stock cam, very mild head porting, FMIC and 11 psi boost was consistantly putting down 195-200 ftlbs torque and 160-170 hp. These are gtech numbers (at the wheels) using a car weight of 3350 with me alone in the car. Not sure of the exact weight of the car but this is our best estimate that we've always used for our hp/tq comparison numbers. This means with about 15% drivetrain loss we're looking at around 200 hp to the crank. So yes it's possible.