505sx2 Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 my peugeot505 form:http://peugeot505.auto.topzj.com/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 COOL! That's the first Chinese (?) 505 forum I've ever seen. Welcome to 505turbo.com! Hopefully you speak english and we can finally find out what was offered and what is still available in your country... Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethx Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 COOL! That's the first Chinese (?) 505 forum I've ever seen. Welcome to 505turbo.com! Hopefully you speak english and we can finally find out what was offered and what is still available in your country... Rabin I believe that's Japanese. I don't speak either language, but something about it "looks" Japanese to me. Also, if you click on the links for some of the ads, they list prices in Yen (the "Y" symbol with the lines through it). An interesting side point -- China uses left-hand-drive, like Europe and the Americas, while Hong Kong uses RHD (like the UK). I saw a program on Discovery on how they're building an auto bridge between HK and the Chinese mainland that "swaps" lanes mid-crossing. The cars I looked at in this forum appear to be LHD -- I'd be interested to know from 505sx2 if the 505s sold in Japan were LHD or RHD. After all, Peugeot made RHD 505s for the UK and Australia...did someone import these 505s into Japan from somewhere else? Andre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethx Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 COOL! That's the first Chinese (?) 505 forum I've ever seen. Welcome to 505turbo.com! Hopefully you speak english and we can finally find out what was offered and what is still available in your country... Rabin okay, it's Japanese. Here's the Google Translate version: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n...com%2Findex.php machine translations are funny. Andre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Crap - my browser automatically detected the language and I thought I saw references to it being Chinese so I guessed, but wasn't sure - thus the "?". My apologies for the incorrect assumption. China had the 505's built domestically, so I almost expected there would be a following there, so it's even cooler to see a following in Japan as they're all likely imported. Super cool to find followings in any country though really... Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505sx2 Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Crap - my browser automatically detected the language and I thought I saw references to it being Chinese so I guessed, but wasn't sure - thus the "?". My apologies for the incorrect assumption. China had the 505's built domestically, so I almost expected there would be a following there, so it's even cooler to see a following in Japan as they're all likely imported. Super cool to find followings in any country though really... Rabin it's my 505 it's my 505 everyone,it is chinese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethx Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 it's my 505 everyone,it is chinese !!! sure enough, when i run his website through google translate set to chinese>english, i get a more complete translation than when i had it set to japanese>english. i guess the only reason it worked at all before was because chinese and japanese share some characters. rabin, you were right! i officially disqualify myself with regards to any expertise on asian languages. What did mark twain say about keeping your mouth shut... 505sx2, welcome! please tell us sometime what it's like to be a peugeot enthusiast in china. are peugeots popular there? andre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505sx2 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 !!! sure enough, when i run his website through google translate set to chinese>english, i get a more complete translation than when i had it set to japanese>english. i guess the only reason it worked at all before was because chinese and japanese share some characters. rabin, you were right! i officially disqualify myself with regards to any expertise on asian languages. What did mark twain say about keeping your mouth shut... 505sx2, welcome! please tell us sometime what it's like to be a peugeot enthusiast in china. are peugeots popular there? andre in china,505 was stopped production at 1998.because the factory is loss very much.now some fans regard it as driftcar.my english is poor. someone modifien engine NISSAN RB25DET..http://www.ocar.tv/info_detail.php?id=1149.... what country is the form in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 This forum is based in the USA, but members are from all over the world. I am in Canada for instance. As for your english - it is 1000000 times better than my Chinese - so please do your best to post as much as you want. If we have questions we'll ask for clarification - but this should be excellent practice for your written english... You are opening a door to a market most all of us have never seen, so I feel very honoured that you are posting here. I really had no idea a drift community existed in China - nevermind there are guys building monster 505's with RB25 swaps! That car is amazing! So please post as much as you want! I do need to figure out how to view the link you posted - I assume it's to the post about that car, but I think we might have to be a member of the forum to view. If you can post english instructions - or can help in anyway - I'd love to join it. Google translate will hopefully allow me to follow with even just a fraction of the info. Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethx Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 in china,505 was stopped production at 1998.because the factory is loss very much.now some fans regard it as driftcar.my english is poor. someone modifien engine NISSAN RB25DET..http://www.ocar.tv/info_detail.php?id=1149.... what country is the form in? The linked site (ocar.tv) doesn't seem to be a membership site, you can go there directly (without translation) and see the car. Very cool pictures. I wasn't able to get Google Translate to work on the entire page (or BabelFish either, for that matter), but I was able to translate individual sections of it. The guy doing the modification said that it was a tremendous amount of work -- I'm sure that's an understatement. My favorite parts -- the rotisserie (looks homemade) and the following quote (please forgive the crappy machine translation): Introduction: It is reported that before the conversion shop Dongyang DMEN drift model for the domestic mainstream has been modified a lot! Shop by them to change out of hand NISSAN A31 and other models are not under 20, so stores have to consider looking for other models, the Japanese? United States Department? European system? The final choice of the domestic store to see a car on the headache ---- Guangzhou Peugeot 505. Maybe in front of a lot of people do not sign 505 conversion potential, but still people willing to do the first person to eat crab. Oka modified network now to give us the shop converted from Hangzhou DMEN called: "wildfire"to create the first case of Guangzhou Peugeot 505 modified drift car - straight to 300 works. I had to look it up -- to "eat the crab" means to be the first person to try something new... Thanks again for posting this, 505sx2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 Can you post the link again Andre - I've tried finding the article on the site with no luck. Link sends me to a blank page.. Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethx Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 Can you post the link again Andre - I've tried finding the article on the site with no luck. Link sends me to a blank page.. Rabin This is the link that 505sx2 posted, above. It seems like trying to access pages within this site directly via url (like we're doing here) seems to be flaky from this part of the world, but the homepage seems to load reliably. I seem to be able to get to the article consistently by doing a google site-restricted search, e.g. ocar.tv: 505 Andre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 Cool - that worked... And oh man - is that car ever re-worked! It's not really a 505 anymore, more like a rebodied Nissan Skyline... Still though - it's super cool that they used a 505 as a base. Incredible amount of work... I love the intercooler set up, and the vented hood. I also l like the rear strut towers as that would be a great way to install some beefier rear shocks into our cars. Hell - It's always cool to check out modded 505's! Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505sx2 Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 I did not think my post is so popular,i will post more pictures,please wait....... it is chinese.it is dificullty to translat it into english with me.so i post the Original..... 关于广州标致505，这款车没有给国人留下什么好印象，对他有质量差、车型老等贬义评价，但是在西欧，标致505却又不愧为一款少有的好车，为什么会有如此差异呢？ 国外汽车生产厂商竞争激烈，制造商为了吸引消费者，车型更新节奏越来越快，从上个世纪70年代起，日本、欧洲轿车5年左右就要换代，一款轿车能连续生产七、八年才换代已经是件不容易的事情了，要是能在本国连续生产20多年似乎是天方夜谭，但是标致505做到了。 标致505作为标致504的替代车型于1978年开始生产，有四门轿车和8座位旅行车两种车型。和其他标致系列轿车一样，车身造型由意大利宾尼法瑞纳车身设计公司设计完成，以今天的审美角度来看，外形仍然潇洒、流畅。车内的"T"型仪表台平整、简洁，和当时流行的"一字型"仪表台相比非常前卫，现在看上去仍不过时。车身结构设计引入了被动安全概念，车体采用高强度拉伸钢板制造，提高了车身刚度，车头有溃缩区，车门安装了侧防撞条，这些能提高事故发生时对乘员的安全保护，使他比同期的日本轿车有更高的安全性。 在标致505二十多年的生产期内装备过一款顶置气门4缸汽油发动机、三款单顶置凸轮轴4缸汽油发动机、一款V6汽油发动机和三款单顶置凸轮轴4缸柴油发动机，汽油机都采用了能使燃料充分燃烧的半球型燃烧室，只有XN1的汽油发动机采用的是化油器供油系统，其他汽油机装备了燃油喷射供油系统，顶级配置标致505装备的ZN3J型V6全铝发动机是标致和雷诺及沃尔沃汽车公司共同研究的成果，90度的夹角设计概念前卫，采用了博世公司具有现代概念的LH-jet +EZK ignition电喷供油系统和新的配气系统设计理念，让他成为当时运转最平稳并首批达到了5万公里免维护标准的V6发动机，这些顶尖的技术都为标致505添色不少。关于传动系统，5速手动变速箱是标准配置，1987年以前生产的标致505可以选装3速自动变速箱，以后的型号可以选装ZF公司的4速自动变速箱(4HP22)。 标致505获得赞誉最多的是他的操控品质，标致汽车公司把在拉力赛上取得的经验移植到他的身上，转向系统路感清晰，细微的模糊转向对驾驶乐趣毫无影响，运动化的悬挂令高速行驶时的稳定性也非常出色。这使标致505成为当时操控品质最出色的中型轿车之一。 在1985年，当日本汽车生产商对在中国生产汽车还不屑一顾时，非常有魄力的PSA标致雪铁龙汽车集团决定和广州汽车厂合资生产标致505。1986年10月北京举行的广东省工业产品展览会上有两个产品最引人注目，一个是采用玻璃钢车身的中华牌汽车(和现在的中华轿车没有任何血缘关系)，另一个就是首次在北京露面的广州标致505旅行轿车，车窗上1900O美元的售价引起了人们的广泛注意，这款车装备了96马力的2升排气量4缸汽油发动机(XNI)，和当时上海生产的桑塔纳相比，虽然车型要早两年，但是在技术含量、性能和造型上优势明显(这时候的大众汽车公司还缺乏设计制造一流B级轿车的经验)。上市后他立刻得到广泛的认同，虽然装备的发动机动力性能一般，但是底盘悬挂优秀，是国内为数不多适用于100公里时速行驶的轿车，但当时国内的高速公路总里程为零，恶劣的道路情况让他很少有用武之地，而车本身一些欧洲化的设计也显出了不足，在中国南方炎热的夏天里，以欧洲气候标准设计的空调显得不够劲，而且车辆电路系统在潮湿的环境中容易出故障，但是这在当时轿车处于卖方市场的中国根本就不是问题，缺乏经验的中方也忽略了解决问题的必要性，为以后广州标致505的不幸打下了伏笔。199年，广州标致505的年销售量上升到近2000O辆，市场份额达到16％，但是合资中方不仅缺乏制造轿车的经验，整个汽车生产的底蕴也不够深，加之广东省整体制造业基础相当薄弱，随着国产化的盲目上升，劣质国产零件导致广州标致505质量严重下滑, 他开始被中国的消费者所抛弃，到1997年停产的时候销售量已经下降到不足1000辆，停产日期比法国还早了两年，开创了发展中国家引进生产轿车里惟一的纪录。 在欧洲则是另外一个情况，标致505依靠其优良的操控品质成为了车坛的老寿星，在上个世纪80年代中期迎来了他生产的高峰，直到1992年四门轿车型号才停产，而8座旅行车的生产线一直到1999年才关闭。在 21年里，各个型号的标致505总共在法国生产了135万辆，是同时代欧洲产量最大的B级轿车之一。(叶宏） 鬼火的505 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505sx2 Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 how to post videoes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Best way to post videos is to just link them - this is old forum software so we can't imbed them here. Your post was so popular - I even posted a link on the French 505 site in France. Rabin Google translation: About Guangzhou Peugeot 505, the car did not leave any good impression to the people, the poor quality of him, and other derogatory evaluation of the old models, but in Western Europe, Peugeot 505, but worthy of a few good cars, why have such a difference? Fierce competition of foreign automobile manufacturers, manufacturers in order to attract consumers, increasingly rapid pace car updates, from the 70s of last century, Japan, Europe car about 5 years will regenerate, and a continuous production car to seven replacement has been eight years is not easy thing, if their continuous production in 20 years seems to be fantasy, but the Peugeot 505 did. Peugeot 504 Peugeot 505 as an alternative model to begin production in 1978, a four-door sedan and two 8-seat station wagon models. And other cars like the Peugeot range, body style body from the Pininfarina design company, to today's aesthetic perspective, the shape is still handsome, smooth. Car of the "T"-type instrument panel flat, simple, and the then popular "a font" instrument panel is very avant-garde than, still looks out of date now. Body structure designed to introduce the concept of passive safety, high-strength tensile steel car body manufacturing, improved body rigidity, the front of a crumple zone, side crash bar door installed, which can increase the time of the accident the safety of the occupant protection his car over the same period in Japan has a higher security. Peugeot 505 in the period of twenty years of production equipment over a 4-cylinder overhead valve gasoline engine, three single-overhead camshaft 4-cylinder gasoline engine, a V6 petrol engine and three single-overhead cam 4-cylinder diesel engines, are used to make gasoline combustion of the fuel combustion chamber dome, only XN1 gasoline engine is used in the carburetor fuel supply system, other fuel injection gasoline engine equipped with a fuel supply system, the top-level configuration of equipment ZN3J Peugeot Type 505 V6 aluminum engine is the Peugeot and Renault and Volvo Car Corporation to study the results of a 90-degree angle between the avant-garde design concepts, using the concept of a modern Bosch LH-jet EZK ignition EFI fuel supply system and the new gas distribution system design, so he became the most stable operation and the first to reach the 50,000 km maintenance standard V6 engine, the top technology all add color to many of the Peugeot 505. On the transmission system, 5-speed manual transmission is standard, produced before 1987, Peugeot 505 for the optional 3-speed automatic transmission, after the model can be optional 4-speed ZF automatic transmission companies (4HP22). Peugeot 505 received the most praise is his manipulation of the quality of the Peugeot Rally on the experience gained transplanted into his body, steering clear road feel, subtle fuzzy steering no impact on driving pleasure, movement of the suspension order high speed stability is also very good. This makes the Peugeot 505 became the quality control of one of the best mid-sized sedan. In 1985, when Japanese auto makers produce cars in China is also dismissive of, the very vigor of the PSA Peugeot Citroen Group's decisions and joint venture car plant in Guangzhou Peugeot 505. October 1986 held in Beijing, Guangdong Province Exhibition on industrial products, most notably the two products, one is a fiberglass body of the Chinese brand cars (and now Chinese cars have no blood relationship), the other is the first appearance in Beijing, Guangzhou Peugeot 505 wagon, dollar price on the window 1900O caused widespread attention, the car equipped with a 96 horsepower 2-liter 4-cylinder gasoline engine exhaust (XNI), and Santana was produced compared to Shanghai, although the two earlier models years, but the technical content, performance and style obvious advantage (this time lack of the Volkswagen company also design and manufacture first-class experience in Class . He immediately after the listing of widely recognized, although the equipment in engine performance in general, but the excellent chassis suspension, is one of the few for cars traveling 100 kilometers per hour, but it was zero, the domestic high mileage, poor road situation so that he rarely have its uses, and the vehicle itself, the design of some of Europe also reveals a lack of hot summer in southern China where the standard design of the European climate air-conditioning was not very strong, and the vehicle electrical systems in the humid environment in easily lead to failure, but this car is in a seller's market in China was simply not a problem, the lack of experience in China also ignored the need to solve the problem for the future lay in Guangzhou Peugeot 505's unfortunate foreshadowing. 199, Guangzhou Peugeot 505's annual sales rose to nearly 2000O vehicles, the market share of 16%, but China is not only a lack of joint-venture car manufacturing experience, the entire automobile production is not enough deep background, coupled with the overall manufacturing base of Guangdong Province is weak , with the increased localization of the blind, poor quality of domestic parts lead to a serious decline in the quality of Guangzhou Peugeot 505, he began to be abandoned by consumers in China to stop production in 1997, when sales had fallen to less than 1000, than the cut-off date France is also two years earlier, creating a developing world where the only production car record. In Europe is a separate case, Peugeot 505, relying on its excellent quality control has become the altar of the old car birthday, in the last century ushered in his mid-80s peak production until 1992, was discontinued four-door sedan models, and 8 wagon production line has been shut down until 1999. In 21 years, various models of Peugeot 505 produced a total of 1.35 million in France, is the production of contemporary Europe, one of the largest B-Class sedans. (Ye) Wildfire 505 505sx2 - you can always use google translation tools to translate if you wish as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bean Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Wow - thanks for the link to the 505! It looks AWESOME lowered like that, with the flares and the massive wheels... Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505sx2 Posted January 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 our Time Zone is diffrent! now,the time is Late at night of you,and my time is lunch. Wow - thanks for the link to the 505! It looks AWESOME lowered like that, with the flares and the massive wheels... Rabin what's the job of you? it is the time to rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 our Time Zone is diffrent! now,the time is Late at night of you,and my time is lunch. what's the job of you? it is the time to rest. I work for IBM in Regina Saskatchewan. So I'm an IT guy. The time here right now is 9:52 PM - so almost bed time. Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505sx2 Posted January 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 well,IBM is belongs to LENOVO now.my computer is lenovo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Yup - IBM sold off their desktop and Thinkpad laptop holdings a few years back. All our work computers are Lenovo's... Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505sx2 Posted January 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 what's the IM are you use?MSN? my msn : [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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