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If I thought I could just put the IP from the blue car into the grey car while sending the one out of the grey car off to Jeremy for a reseal that sounds like a good thing to do, but I was looking at the procedure for timing it and besides not having the gauges I'm not confident about doing that myself. Steffen Moller tells me that he had similar symptoms to mine and was able to fix it with a single O ring. That would certainly be a best case scenario. I think I will try to remove the pump from the blue car and see if I can identify the O ring Steffen is referring to. I'll then try to obtain a couple of those before removing the pump from the grey car. Hopefully I can get some more life out of the existing pump in the grey car. If I find it does need a complete reseal, I'll have to figure out a way to get the other pump into the grey car and timed while that's done. If I were to send the pump to Canada for a reseal, does anyone know what I'll have to deal with duty wise? I know under NAFTA there is no duty on goods manufactured in the US or Canada going back and forth, but there is on something manufactured in Germany even if it is first imported into the US before being sent to Canada or vice versa. Am I going to pay duty on the value of the pump in each direction or just on the value of the seal kit on the way back? Usually Google is my friend, but I can't find anything that clearly answers this, or for than matter, tells me who I can contact for a good answer.

This discussion is all somewhat over my head (fascinating anyway) but since the pump is mechanically driven on one side and the intake and exhaust manifolds are on the other side, I don't see how they could be relocated to the same side, in either direction.

BTW I've run a few errands since I reported the rough idle and it seems to have smoothed out after a mile or two. Perhaps a leaking seal caused it to ingest a little air while it was sitting for a couple of days.

I think the injector pump on the blue car may have been starting to leak as well before the engine seized.. From time to time I would find a puddle of fuel under it. I would then go weeks with no more evidence of leaking. In all my almost 40 years of experience owning Peugeot Diesels I've never had a problem with an injector pump before. Of course none of them were this old before, so maybe 28 years is when they start to leak. I can't see myself resealing an injector pump myself. I'm not sure where to go for that. Any recommendations? Is that something a local diesel mechanic would (should) tackle, or is that a job for a specialist? How hard is it to remove and reinstall the pump? If the one in the blue car is leaking less but the one in the grey car probably has less miles on it, I might be inclined to put the pump from the blue car in the grey car, while I get the one out of the grey one resealed. Although I haven't really investigated it yet, I have a feeling this ain't cheap.

The Blue car is disabled because the engine seized when I sucked water into the air intake, so the lack of an alternator is not an issue. At some time I expect to put the engine from the grey car into the blue one. If on autopsy it turns out that the engine in the blue car is salvageable, then I'll have the P-R alternator and I'll either use it as a core to get a rebuilt Bosch or I'll just have it rebuilt. Now I may need to take the injector pump from the blue car as well. so it's getting more and more disabled all the time.

I swapped out the alternators. The Belt that was on the grey car with the P-R alternator was smaller than the one on the blue car with the Bosch alternator. Joe said he couldn't get it very tight so I imagine that was part of trying to get it to fit. I put the blue car's bracket in place of the one Joe had modified to get the P-R one in, and used the belt from the blue car which was less than a year old. When I got the car from Joe, there was a heater spliced into the lower radiator hose. I couldn't get it not to rub on the blades of the Bosch alternator, and since the heater either doesn't work at all, or at least not very well I decided to take it out and use the hose from the blue car. The bottom hose clamp faced into the fan shroud so I had to remove that. When I went to put the hose from the blue car in I discovered that it was about two inches too short. The blue car has an aftermarket radiator and the bottom hose connection is positioned slightly higher up. So I used pieces from both hoses with the heater body as a joint. I'll figure out a better solution soon but I had to work with what I had on hand or be off the road for a few days. I intend to put the block heater from the blue car into this one anyway so I don't need the one that came with it. For the past week or so I've had a fuel leak coming from the vicinity of the injector pump. I tried to identify it while I had the battery out but I can't tell if it's coming from the pump itself or from one of the connections to the pump. The side of the block below the pump is all wet and it is dripping from the oil pan at rest and presumably while driving. When I started the car after the alternator swap it shook so that I thought I has left a wrench in it or something but everything is clear of everything else. It smooths right out with a little more RPMs but it idles very rough. I'm betting it is related to the fuel leak. Any thoughts on that would be appreciated. Oh, and the Bosch alternator seems to be working fine.

I was thinking of that. I can't quite see what the adjustment situation is. I'll take a look at it tomorrow, weather permitting. Since I have the Bosch alternator from the other car, into which this engine will eventually go, that's probably easier than getting the P-R bracket. If the other engine turns out to be repairable and I need the P-R alternator for it, then I'll look into getting the correct bracket.

I don't know why I didn't notice that before, and I don't know if that's the whole problem, but you're right it is loose.

Are the drain holes at the bottom of the door clear? If I understand the previous puddle was on top of the mat and not underneath, it sounds like it would be coming from overhead someplace.

New Jersey has had several colors and designs over the years. Our plates stay with the owner, not necessarily the car, as long as you keep them on some car or other. As soon as you drop the insurance on a car you have to turn in the plates unless you transfer them to another car. So I have a set of mid 80s plates on the grey 505, which were previously on the blue 505 and on a Toyota before that. After I switch engines from the Grey to the Blue cars, I'll change the plates back again. I think I read that NJ has instituted a program like the one in CA. I think NJ also requires a certain number of people to order plates by a certain date before it takes effect.

I dropped off the Bosch Alternator from the blue car at a rebuilder today. When I walked in he asked if it was a Mercedes. When I said Peugeot he didn't bat an eye. He said he might have one in stock but after a look around said he would need to rebuild mine. He asked if it had been under water. I imagine since Hurricane Sandy they've seen a lot of starters and alternators that had been under water. Unlike yesterday, the Paris-Rhone alternator, in the grey car, was not working today. By the time I got home after various errands it was down to 10.5 volts. I've got the battery charger on overnight.

Been there done that. The rehab takes a while and it's not pleasant, but in the end I'm pretty much good as new. Hopefully you will be too. Good luck.

Today I stopped at Pep Boys and had them check the Bosch from the blue car. It did not pass. I have been monitoring the voltage on the grey car using the Paris-Rhone using a meter plugged into the cigarette lighter unlike the past few days. the alternator worked fine all day even after dark with the headlights on. I'm going to stop by a place that specializes in rebuilding alternators and starter motors with the Bosch tomorrow and see what he says.

You think they might damage it? I could just put the Bosch in, and see how it works. It was working fine last I knew. I was just looking to confirm that it's OK before I go to the trouble of putting it in. I'm also kind of draging my feet till I hear from Joe about what kind of modification he did to the bracket when he replaced the original Bosch with the Paris-Rhone, so I know what I'll be dealing with when I go to put my Bosch back in it.

Yesterday I took the alternator from the blue car to Advance Auto Parts but they said their test bench was broken. I'll try someplace else tomorrow. I charged the Battery overnight. Today I had to go somewhere about 25 miles away. When I went out, with the charger on, and the engine off, the voltage read 14.something. I started the car and left the charger on for a few minutes. When I disconnected the charger the voltage held around 14.3 volts while I drove the 25 miles so I think the alternator was working. When I went to come home a few hours later it was dark out. I started the car and after a brief voltage drop it went back to the upper 13s until I started driving and turned the lights on, at which time it immediately dropped to about 12.8. It then slowly dropped the rest of the way home, and by the time I got home it was reading 11.6. The warning light flickered intermittently on the way home.

Unless my Bosch from the blue car tests bad, I'll certainly go with it. Joe got one from Rock Auto that he said was PARIS RHONE. That could have been 50A or 75A. Seems to be 0A now. The Bosch OEM one that I have is 70A. Unless there's a compelling reason not to, I generally try to stay as original as I can. My license plates are even 1980s version.

Joe, So was this a modification to the car side, or the alternator side? Just wondering before I go to put a Bosch alternator back in it, if I'm going to run into a problem.

OK I took the alternator out of the Blue car and cleaned it up a little. I think I'll try to get it tested before I pull the suspect one from the grey car, so I know I'm putting in a good one. As I said it's either the original or an OEM one put in by a Peugeot dealer 15ish years ago. It says Bosch 0 120 489 358

This alternator is not an OEM. Joe got it from Rock Auto and put it in earlier this year, before I bought it. The one in my blue car is OEM. I don't remember if it was ever replaced but I'm sure I didn't do it any time in the last 15 years or so. If I ever did replace it that long ago, it would have been done by a Peugeot dealer, and presumably would have been an OEM part. I vaguely remember having some kind of charging problem 15 or 20 years ago but I don't remember if the alternator was changed at that time. I think I recall something in the instrument cluster being the problem back then.

The alternator on the other car was known good before the engine "stopped". I have no reason to believe it's not still working. Of course the fresh water I drove into that killed the engine or the salt water from hurricane Sandy could have hurt it. I know that the first one was deep enough to get sucked in the air intake. The hurricane flood came just to the bottom of the doors. I don't think either was deep enough to get to the alternator.

I'm not consistently getting a warning light. It goes on and off occasionally from time to time. It doesn't go on brightly just kind of fades in and out. The warning light will stay off for several days even when it seems to not be charging. I usually see the warning light at night when I have headlights on, but even then it's not constant or at full brightness.

Sure is! ;-)

The alternator is definitely not charging properly. The idiot light occasionally fades on and off. Not on solid, but a volt meter stays at 12.something all the time. It drops off a bit with the lights on but never goes up enough to show that it's charging. I find it a little surprising that the alternator would die this soon so I'm leaning toward a connection someplace. A bad ground seems to be the root of most Peugeot problems anyway, so I'll look into that before pronouncing the alternator dead. If I can't get this one working, then of course, the alternator from the blue car is available.

The days have all run together but I think this is day 11. Halleluiah!! We just got our power back. We did wind up getting 3 or 4 inches of snow Wednesday night. It was pretty warm for snow, though pretty cold for no power. Except a few shady places that has all melted now.

I haven't seen Goodyear coils but I have a bunch of those by Gates that I've used on 3/4 inch coolant hoses.