warlockuy Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Hi thanks for accepting me in the forum. sorry for my english i am from Uruguay, my home language is Spanish come to the forum looking for help upgradear my engine. not much data on the Internet. but you I think are right for my project. my car is a peugeot 605 3.0 v6 12v zpj prv My point is, go to turbo. but I have no data. how many hp gearbox support and the standard engine. that there are recommendations, reinforce changes send to do as. needs to be done. could you help me? I leave a picture of the car very thanks Rafael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Hi Rafael, Adding a turbo will be very costly for the amount of boost you would be able to run on a stock motor. An easier way - but still very expensive - would be to fit a small Rotrex supercharger to the engine. 4-5 psi boost and it should give a nice increase in power, and the Rotrex is very linear so it should be easier on the motor and the transmission. How much is your budget? A project like this will take lots of money, and you will need to have quite a bit of fabrication skills and tools to make it happen. Closest Rotrex distributor to you that I found was here: http://www.herreramotorsports.com.br/ Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlockuy Posted August 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 thanks for the reply. the plan is long term. I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject, I have a trainer friend we are planning the cost is about 3000, 4000 dollars. I am far from what you think is necessary? the Rotrex, do you think is better? how many hp would expect to achieve? now has 170 car. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 If your goals are modest with just low boost, you can likely do it for that budget if you are able to do all the work yourselves. With 5-7 psi you can likely get away with small fuel mods and just the install and be pushing 220HP maybe? Going for higher boost becomes much more expensive since the stock engine will need to be rebuilt to handle the boost reliably. Fuel system upgrades and likely a stand alone ECU as well. If you decide on turbo - then there's even more fabrication to be done. The Rotrex would be the easiest way to boost your engine since it just needs to be installed - no changes to your exhaust are needed, but they would help power. I would call that place in San Paulo to see what they think it would cost to supply the components. Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlockuy Posted August 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 thank you very much already send mail to St. Paulo. if I have no answer, on Monday called on the phone and I tell you very thanks Rafael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlockuy Posted August 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 hello says eaton m65 m62 one? thank you very much Rafael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Eaton would need a custom intake to be fabricated. A centrifugal supercharger like the Rotrex would be much easier to install. Smaller the better if you decide to go with the Eaton as with a stock motor you really shouldn't exceed 5 - 7 psi and still hope to have some reliability. Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlockuy Posted August 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 I will try to get a Rotrex in Brazil I was told that they did not have at the moment. how many hp could achieve with the eaton? thanks very Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikenna Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 My phase 1 605 V6 3.0 12v zpj gives me enough power not to be bothered to imagine what it would be like with more power. Though the 170 hp is not that huge, compared to the zpj4 and the newer cars these days. What about the zpj4 (24v) that develops 200 hp? Wont it be cheaper for you to buy one in good condition (i.e. if you can still find one ) than to go into the zpj turbo installation? Anyway, i believe you have your reasons. Ikenna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Boost levels will determine the power levels, how it's achieved will be determined by the forced induction method. Eaton's (positive displacement) will build power very quickly and more abruptly compared to Rotrex which is more linear and kinder to your drivetrain. All depends on your budget and power goals. Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlockuy Posted August 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 My phase 1 605 V6 3.0 12v zpj gives me enough power not to be bothered to imagine what it would be like with more power. Though the 170 hp is not that huge, compared to the zpj4 and the newer cars these days. What about the zpj4 (24v) that develops 200 hp? Wont it be cheaper for you to buy one in good condition (i.e. if you can still find one ) than to go into the zpj turbo installation? Anyway, i believe you have your reasons. Ikenna hello thank you very much for responding. in my country there are 12 units 24v and none of them is zpj4 the 12v is 100 units, there are many less in a junkyard. and spoken German France vendors to see if I send an engine, as there are from 200 300 euros, but none I wanted to make the delivery. view of strengthening it so I decided to improve a little. the car and walk strong, but a little would not be bad. Boost levels will determine the power levels, how it's achieved will be determined by the forced induction method. Eaton's (positive displacement) will build power very quickly and more abruptly compared to Rotrex which is more linear and kinder to your drivetrain. All depends on your budget and power goals. Rabin Rabin very thanks thanks The Rotrex is costing me get a price for my country. eaton are many on ebay. at low prices and in very good condition. diicho me an biturbo to look for information, but compared to complex medium or eaton Rotrex. talves'm wrong, but it seems simpler installation and maintenance of a supercharger thank you very much Rafael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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