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I just bought a 604 (don't worry, my 505 stays too), of course it's an european one, but I like the american equal-sized double headlights of the 604 and the chrome border. Can they easily be installed on a european car and does anybody have a clew where I can find maybe a complete front? To be clear: Here is a photo of my car: And I'd like to have this front. Thanks, Bram

Pictures please Those kind of cars are rarely seen in Holland!

It's really getting out of hand indeed. A question is a good idea. That way we get rid of the spambots, although the above question is easy to guess for real persons. (By the way, there are two answers possible!!) On the Dutch Peugeotforum (PHP) it is also possible to block certain IP-asdress. We had no more spambots the last half year. It seems that they often come from the same computer.

I agree completely. I understand it a bit, times are hard for PSA being a small company on the car market. A lot of european brands are part of GM and Ford. But I think europeans will rather choose a Landrover, BMW or a Japanese brand when they're looking for a 4X4 family car instead of a Peugeot. The new 07 series of Peugeot have hardly anything 'Peugeotish'. The looks are still a bit Peugeot, although I don't really like them with their big sharkjaws. They have changed the famous and comfortable Peugeot suspension for German ones. The 307 for example is built on a Volkswagen Golf base. I drove one when my 306 was in the garage for repairs. At first I was happy to try this new Peugeot, but it lost a lot of comfort on bad roads in comparison to the 306. Luckily at Citroen (the other PSA company) they kept their famous and fabulous air suspension. Have there been Citroens in the US or are they still available? By the way, Not long ago I spotted an american model 405 here in Holland. Somebody told me this was probably one of a shipment of 200 cars which was rejected in the USA because of new road regulations. That's why they were sold in Europe. He told me this was the end of export to America. Is this true? Haven't there been any new Peugeot since 15 years in the USA?

I've read about this too. Peugeot SUV? Well, infact it's just a Mitsubishu with a lion on the front. Since years I think it's a pity that all cars are going to look the same. But I understand that in America one can buy a car and afterwards choose the brand? Even worse is my opinion. Long live globalisation!

I've read about this too. Peugeot SUV? Well, infact it's just a Mitsubishu with a lion on the front. Since years I think it's a pity that all cars are going to look the same. But I understand that in America one can buy a car and afterwards choose the brand? Even worse is my opinion. Long live globalisation! By the way, I think you mean the Citroen C8? The CX is out of produktion for 20 years already.

You mean, it doesn't stay in high beam mode? You can only flash? In my GLD I have a similar problem. With lights off, I can flash my high beam. But with lights on it does nothing. I think it is indeed the switch, because often turning on the lights is not going very smooth. This weekend I try to get hold of a new switch and will place it. I'll let you know if that was the problem.

Here in Holland the Volvo's are known as good quality spacious cars. I know Volvo's that are daily used for over 40 years and still driving fine. The only brand that can compete with that is Mercedes. Unfortunately, the comfort can not be compared to that of French cars. At least not when where talking baout pre 1990 cars. The last years there is not so much difference between european brands. They all buying the best parts from each factory so that they all produce virtually the same cars. Not entirely true, but it's heading that way and I think it's a pity all this globalisation. So overall, it seems a good car to me that can do hundreds of thousand kilometers more.

After a 'clean-up' of my collection of cars, I keep only these two. A 1984 GLD for every day use and the 1986 GTI for sunny summerdays. A 505 is surely the best peugeot I've driven, so I'm quite happy. I rather drive my GTI everyday, but the petrol costs here don't allow me to (about 6 dollars a gallon). Diesel is luckily a lot cheaper.

Well, I contacted my friend with the swingarms. Unfortunately he used them recently on a 505GTDT he is restoring. He still has a lot of other 505-parts, but he said that people could come and collect them. He is not really willing to ship large steel items, especially not to foreign countries. Anyway, if you can get good used ones in the USA or Canada, it's surely less expensive than getting new ones from Europe. Further more, I'm not really sure if they are 100% the same. There are a lot of small differences between European and American 505's. Good luck!

I'm not sure if you really can trust this list, but I found 2 Peugeot dealers in Maine: MAINE McElman, Inc. Route 1 Woolwich, ME 04579 207-443-9781 Snow's Garage, Inc. Route 175 S. Penobscot, ME 04476 207-326-8822 For the rest of the US of A click here. Maybe it's known here already, but quite some information can be found here

OK, I'll contact him this week. I haven't spoken him since a few months, but those swing arms where lying about for almost 2 years already. So I assume they are still unsold. I'll let you know this week!

So you bought it? Congratulations! I'm looking forward for the pics. For the rear swing arms. A friend of mine has 2 new ones, he is asking 450 euro for them. But they are in Holland (Europe), so shipping might be quite expensive.

I sold the worst break immediately to Africa. It is running in Senegal now. The better one I sold to a Peugeot enthousiast in Holland. And I got for al lot less money 2X 305 diesel Break! Seemed like a good deal, it's only a bit smaller. But man what is it slow! 0-60 miles in about 15 minutes. Top speed hardly 80 miles/h. No wonder with the 1500cc 45hp diesel engine. I first thought it had the 1900cc, but that is only in the newer models. In comparison, the 505 Break had a 2500cc diesel engine. My collection of cars last summer: The right one, the 205 was my first car. It is now becoming slowly destroyed by my brother. (See topic in pictures/videos) I now got the original TRX alloy wheels for the GTI: So this is currently standing in front of my house:

These swingarms are the weakest point on the 505. That's why they are very hard to find (for a reasonalbe price), even here in Europe. The previous owner of my 505 did change them about 3 years ago at the local Peugeot dealer. Off course, that's not the cheapest way, but he had to pay 550 euro per new arm, excluding the work. The final bill was 1300 euro (about 1500 dollar)! Because there are hardly any technical problems with 505's, here in Europe the value of a 505 is completely dependent on the condition of the swingarms. I hope you're gonna save this car, but expect that to get the car in good shape, costs more than the 500 dollar you paid for the car.

I suppose this is more an accident indeed. He forgot the car when the tide came in probably. I don't know the guy, but the photo is probably taken in Mauretanie (West Afrika).

401 coupe/cabrio 402 coupe/cabrio 403 convertible 449920 404 convertible 405 406 407

Most american cars have automatic transmission, dont they? Here in Holland the automatic are more sought after and considered more luxourely. Less then 10 procent of the cars is an automatic. For new cars, an automatic is usually about 3000 euro more expensive than one with a manual gearbox, that's why you see them rarely. I'm very happy with my 505 automatic.

WHat other Peugeot do you like very much. Not all models were available in the US I think, but you can dream about it anyway. I myself like the 604 as being the first real luxe car by Peugeot. Maybe some day I'll buy one. Harder to get are the 401 and 402 Eclipse. The last ten years, a lot of car manufacturers make coupe/cabriolet versions. It is a coupe with hardtop, but the roof can go in the trunk electrically. In Europe the Peugeot 206cc and 307cc are very populair. But this is absolutely not an idea of the last 10 years. Peugeot had it already in the 30's:

That is not too difficult. Maybe they are not available in the US, but in Europe you can buy yellow bulbs too put into the lights. That's the normal way to do it with french cars. The glass is white normally. Only at old German and English cars that are sold in France they yellow glass in the lights. You don't see it that well, but 4 of the 505's on the picture have yellow lights!

Salt works quite quick to melt the snow. Here in Europe all countries use salt too in case of snow except Switzerland. There they use sand. Sand does not let the snow melt quickly, but it gives a lot more grip on the steep slopes in Switzerland and it's better for the cars. Most of the classic cars that are imported to Holland the last years are of Swiss origine. There you can find virtually rustfree old cars in original state, although they have the most snow of European countries.

I don't know how it is in the USA (especially the northern states), but in Holland rust in the biggest problem for the 505 (and lots of other old cars). The 505's that are still driving in Holland have had several rustprevention treatments normally. What are the methods used in America to stop or prevent rust on your car? Some people really trust their method and do serious testing!:

Also the GTDT Dangel exists. I saw one at a meeting this spring. Check also the pictures in the topic : 505-meeting in Sochaux.

People always want something special, therfore the US-light, but I also like the european more. The wiper blade with deflector? I'm not sure what you mean on which picture, I can't find it anyway.

Some weeks ago there was a meeting of 505-drivers in France. It was a nice weekend. We visited the peugeot museum. We discussed technical issues and trie dto start up a 505 club. Here ar esome pictures: Note the 4X4 Break Dangel on the left site.