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  1. New engine for 505 turbo

    in General Peugeot discussion

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    so just cuerious, but when you made your exhaust manifold, did you tune the lenght of each pipe? or how exactley did you set it up.

    My opinion about this pipe length optimising in turbo car is totally waste of time and money... yeah it looks nice etc... In long pipe gases will cool and loose energy, increase lag, more heat in engine bay etc... Short and compact is best. Maybe if I try to take everything out (~200hp/cyl) then it could make a difference. IMHO

    V-M

  2. New engine for 505 turbo

    in General Peugeot discussion

    Posted

    750cc @ 3bar? B)

    what fuel pump are you planning on running? and how are your titanium drivetrain parts coming along? :angry: hehehe

    all sounds good V-M, can't wait to see those dyno results. take pictures, and video's with sound if you can!! :D

    Naa... probably not for this car (those injectors) just teasing (but I did buy them) :D But I'll stop now and consentrate on building when ever I have time.

    V-M

  3. New engine for 505 turbo

    in General Peugeot discussion

    Posted

    So... I'd have to move dyno time again. Con rod bearings missing :angry: new time 19. january 2006.

    Main axel polised in grinder shop.

    And a lot other things to do during "this" time of year. :D

    Just bought new set of injectors (750cc/3bar) and discussing to buy of TDO4-16T(G7) but eaven it's cheap

    I'll think to keep my old fassioned TO3 trim60 (it feel when it will "get going") B)

    V-M

  4. Under trunk fuel tank...

    in General Peugeot discussion

    Posted

    Yes, I'm fully awear on these head gasket posibilities. But my point of view was "normal" engine builder/repairer. Those o-rings are also as factory build as different grooves. And can be used when you cut "chamber ring" off from normal gasket. And machine 1.2mm deep and 1mm wide place around cylinder. That is "normal" way what they do here in racing cars.

    Rings

    Using copper gasket is one solution but there is also challege cause it will leak untill you have tightend gasket ~10 times (yes I have done that)

    But these solutions are mainly for those who like to get more hp. Okay, well this copper gasket can be one

    after they have stopped to deliver those from factory.

    Those Toyota shells are interesting? Only problem is if it's old (before 90's), toyota will not produce many parts any more (life cycle in Japan is 5years in car point of view). I did visit Toyotas museum in Tokyo couple of years back. And asked that issue, and reasoning was at Japan goverment is punishing those who use older cars (by heavy payments and inspection regulations).

    V-M

  5. Under trunk fuel tank...

    in General Peugeot discussion

    Posted

    Luckily tensioner is used also in diesel engines (can be used) and chain in used also in other brands. Chain can be longer cause it's easy to cut. Only big issue is those bearings! There is some solutions to cover but all of them are expensive ones. All other gaskets can be made/modified/replace easily except head gasket.

    So in end:

    In engine:

    - Head gasket

    - Bearing shells

    Body:

    - metal parts

    - moulded rubber parts

    Electrical:

    - All boxes (only used ones available)

    - Display modules (for old body <- 85)

    etc...

    V-M

  9. Exhaust Manifold

    in General Peugeot discussion

    Posted

    Heh... I don't know if my dream is ever going to be realized... :)

    The limits of the drivetrain are yet unknown to me. V-M once said to me, that the transmission should withstand more than 300Nm if used correctly.

    Some other bloke said that a Getrag transmission from some older 700/800 series BMW should be "easy" to fit to the 505 turbo.

    He said that the clutch housing is removable, so it would be possible to make one fitting to the N9TE and also the main axle grooves were similar to the ones in BA10/5.

    Don't know if that's true, but it would be nice. :)

    It will take more that 300Nm but that's official limit :) That BMW Getrag (26X) goves are close to Pug growe but not exact (I have tested) But thats no brob just use BMW cluch plate :D

    V-M

  11. New 505 turbo has bought (not again!)

    in General Peugeot discussion

    Posted

    :o

    I was promising (to my self and my wife) not to buy any more of these. But what can you do :(

    It has been driven 206tkm in west Sweden and originally has been "show" car in local dealer.

    Last owner owned this 4 months and did made some changes, changed turbo to TDO4-15G

    with interesting adapter in original exhaust manifold and added 3" exhaust pipe. Moved original IC

    to front (not so nice). And moved battery on back. Some paint failures, but over all not so bad.

    Trip to car was not so nice B) weather was bad. temperature was going from +1C to -6C and

    was snowing, road was slipery etc... not nice towing trailer+car with 1900kg and towing car was my

    saab and distance was ~600km in one direction so it did take 15h with 2 stops (15min) in both ways.

    V-M

    Pictures are on my home page in Peugeot section

  13. My ex.505 turbo has new look

    in General Peugeot discussion

    Posted

    Man you guys are building some SWEET 505 Turbo's!!

    Juha - you car is VERY nice indeed. Us North American enthusiasts need to step it up a notch so we can be in the same league - but seeing all of your fine examples of how it should be done is doing a real nice job of motivating me to get my car into proper shape.

    As an aside - any idea's on if it would be possible to retrofit the Euro plastic 70L tank into a car here in Canada? I'd love to recoup all that trunk space, as well as get some added touring capacity to the tank. Having a corrosion resistant tank would also help with storing the cars over the winter.

    I'd be interested in seeing how much all that would cost to ship to Canada - so if there are any takers please let me know!

    Rabin

    I have two of those tanks free. If some one pays and handels all transportation issues those are free of charge on my side. (But without tank pump assembly, those are rost away from those).

    V-M

  14. My ex.505 turbo has new look

    in General Peugeot discussion

    Posted

    aaaaahh, thanks for the clarification V-M!! :(

    next question is how in the HELL did he get that throttle elbow.. its like the one from the 85 non intercooled turbo, but a complete reverse version.. even has tap for overboost switch, and air aux valves?????? was it just a REALLY good machineist?

    Easy job!? Just use some aluminium tubes and TIG "glue" :o

    V-M

  17. My ex.505 turbo has new look

    in General Peugeot discussion

    Posted

    - The "biode" headlights - they have the extra high beam bulb in them like my old euro 504 headlights. I'd love to get a set of those for my car as well - or modify my existing euro lights with the extra bits. (I have 100W H3 bulbs for high beam in my 504 lights and they're AMAZING!)

    :o Lights are dam good with these bi-diode lamps. But are expensive and hard to find. (I have one new 504 bi-diode lamp in original package).

    There is one blue 505 turbo with this evo set (in Finland) but missing this front spoiler (have original instead).

    I have pictures of it also (it has been lowered and engine is build).

    V-M

  18. My ex.505 turbo has new look

    in General Peugeot discussion

    Posted

    bean, nice eye on the tank location, i totally missed that hahahaha.. :)

    anyone know why they changed the tank location on EU 505's? i'd imagine the lower CG is better for handling as well eh?

    Not to be tight ass... but. Didn't location changed FOR US reculations. And was originally

    under car? It was metal earlier models? All turbos did have plastic tank (europe models).

    Also exhaust pipe location was changed in same reasons?

    V-M

    looks great V-M! interesting rear wing / trunk setup, where is that from?

    it looks very cold! i wish we got snow in los angeles :o

    That is original evo set sold for -> 86 models in peugeot dealers and was in Peugeot catalog

    as optional equipments. This set only known whole set in Finland (was not so happy to sell it

    but... can't hold everything)

    Not so cold yet -2deg C B) -> it will be -20C and could be some days also close to -40C :(

    V-M

  21. New engine for 505 turbo

    in General Peugeot discussion

    Posted

    Okay, here is update in current situation. Actually more bad news :o

    I did clean all parts troughtly after machining but there must be some place in engine where this machining dirt was hiding. This was taken out from main axcel -> Dirt

    And that was causing this -> Bearings

    And scratches in cylinder -> Cyl

    So more cleaning to be done and and this favourite part -> finding new axcel bearings starts (0.1mm over size) :(

    New piston ring set ordered, this time Hepolite ones (I'm not sure if I use current top ones and only change this crappy oil ring).

    Main axcel was looking ok, eaven bearings were so bad.

    I hope at sun will shine (some day) on my side :unsure:

    V-M

    OBS: there is some more pictures on my site

  22. How old are Peugeot drivers?

    in Off Topic

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    I'm 41, first close touch was in -67 when we did have 203 for short while -> engine was used in Amstrong Siddley which I used as play ground at home yard :( I don't remember why my dad was doing engine swap :unsure:

    Next close contact was when I started in local peugeot dealer as mecanic in -84, and in -85 this one came in there as show car My 505 turbo :o We weren't eaven alloved to test that, and I did first service for it. And that was impressive car in those days! So circle has closed when I did buy that in year 2000. I didn't have to think twice whe I noticed at that was same car which I serviced in -85. So that was my first 505 turbo and eaven I have had nicer and more special ones this one has kept my hart B).

    V-M

  23. New engine for 505 turbo

    in General Peugeot discussion

    Posted

    Damn - that's really unfortunate... (I had the dyno day on my calendar!)

    I guess that's part of the rocky road to building such a beastly engine... I hope that progress continues and you can have the issues resolved in short order. Hopefully nothing is fatal....

    Are you OK for parts replacement?

    Rabin

    Part side there is no problems, only limitation is first time then comes money :unsure: First is not easy to solve (two small kids 5y and 3y, own house and day work) second one time will solve. But I managet to get new time in this year side 19th of December. So that is nexl goal if I find suitable oil rings, luckily I did also find new set of those volvo 96mm pistons if there is anything wrong with those. I ordered some new parts for turbo yesterday and got them today. I'll try to have new rings in friday.

    I desided to use in next setup original dani head and my different cam -> specially made: 272 inlet and 282 exh with 110 lobe and lift is 7.8mm in cam.

    But I'll keep you informed and if there is motivation I'll take some picture also about failures.

    V-M

    what rings did you use?

    Goetze were manufacturer, I have use them many times but these 3 part oil rings were way differend and difficult to install compared earlier ones (also 3 part ones).

    V-M

  24. New engine for 505 turbo

    in General Peugeot discussion

    Posted

    Some update on situation: Dyno day was ordered on next friday (18th) but sadly I have to cancel that :(

    I did some check outs on engine after runing 750km with it. Oil was looking okay (Valvoline 20W-50 racing)

    and filter I did not open yet (I'll do it later).

    So I did put pressure directly in cylinder with compressor to listen if there is leagage on some where... And there was. Air was coming out on inlet side :unsure: in all cylinders. Okay then I measured pressure in all cylinders starting from front 8, 9.2, 8.2, 5 -> not nice! I added oil on cyl, nearly no change. So easy quess was at valves are bend.

    Head of and there was clear markings in all cylinders in BOTH valve side.

    So "back to the drawning board", I open whole engine cause also those shity oil rings are no good.

    There was some small scratches on cyl wall which are caused by those oil rings.

    I'll also have to do some turbo work, when I opened that exh. side of DP -> this "flap" of wastegate was fallen of :o

    More info and maybe some pictures when work continues...

    V-M

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