96Formula6spd Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 Looking to buy a xd2s. Our engine in our project car is locked down tight. If we have to we will look into rebuilding ours. Our car is a 1982 505 TD. Seems we can use some from the 504? And 604? As well as 505 up to 84. Anybody got one in the South Carolina area. Willing to drive a few hours for a good engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted August 14, 2021 Report Share Posted August 14, 2021 It must have blown a HG and filled a piston with coolant for a diesel to get locked up. The very nature of diesel means the engines *usually* can survive long periods of sitting with not a lot of issues. Might be worth while to pull some glow plugs and see if there is any clues. Can’t help with sourcing a motor, but you might want to try Brian Holm in VT. Depending on the 2.3L xd2s you have, you *might* be able to bolt in a later 2.5L xd3t - but it’ll come down to specifics that Brian is well versed on. Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96Formula6spd Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 On 8/14/2021 at 7:44 PM, Bean said: It must have blown a HG and filled a piston with coolant for a diesel to get locked up. The very nature of diesel means the engines *usually* can survive long periods of sitting with not a lot of issues. Might be worth while to pull some glow plugs and see if there is any clues. Can’t help with sourcing a motor, but you might want to try Brian Holm in VT. Depending on the 2.3L xd2s you have, you *might* be able to bolt in a later 2.5L xd3t - but it’ll come down to specifics that Brian is well versed on. Rabin Yeah it blew a head gasket many times with the old owners. It got head gasket in a can a few times. We pulled the glow plugs a month or so ago and put in some marvels but it still won't turn over by hand. Glow plugs 1-2-3 looked like they had been wet at one time. Cylinder 4 the front looked not as wet. Car went down in 2019 so if it rusted up then this engine might just be junk. The engine is coming out next weekend. But looking to see if we can just get something to drop in for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 Tough call as it could have also had a massive overheat as well, but either way a replacement motor is likely the way to go. HG is supposed to be fairly easy to do, but you need to pull the head first to measure piston protrusion first so you get the right gasket. Lots of motors got 3 notch gaskets (thickest) out of convenience, but a fair bit of power is lost if a thinner gasket could have been used. Brian Holm is likely your best bet to have a motor shipped, otherwise isn’t just keeping an eye open for something local to turn up. Maybe put some wanted adverts up? Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96Formula6spd Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Bean said: Tough call as it could have also had a massive overheat as well, but either way a replacement motor is likely the way to go. HG is supposed to be fairly easy to do, but you need to pull the head first to measure piston protrusion first so you get the right gasket. Lots of motors got 3 notch gaskets (thickest) out of convenience, but a fair bit of power is lost if a thinner gasket could have been used. Brian Holm is likely your best bet to have a motor shipped, otherwise isn’t just keeping an eye open for something local to turn up. Maybe put some wanted adverts up? Rabin The problem right now is the engine is seized solid. Buddy's torque wrench clicked at 250ftlbs and it did not budge at all. Forwards or backwards. Head will be off this weekend after we pull the engine out. But figure we got some work to do. Rebuilding is not out of the question. The better question comes to be is the head and bottom in savable condition. We might open it to warped/cracked head and a rusted out bottom end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRDT Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 You can order a XD2S from l'aventure Peugeot but it's not exactly cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 You might want to try a 50/50 ATF and Acetone mix in the cylinders - I usually use ATF by itself if I don't have Acetone. Some good info in this link: https://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Freeing_a_stuck_engine Motors can come out with the trans attached if you unbolt the diff from the top mounts, and the torque tube at the transmission, and slide them back with the center driveshaft so that it's disconnected from trans. You then need to lift the car quite high so that you can tilt the engine and trans out of the car. You can also just drop the cross members with the suspension and engine attached, then lift the car off them if you have enough height. Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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