my3AWDgst Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 For quite some time I've been looking for stock MI16 ignition timing table as it's needed as reference or starting point when using other tuning fuel management systems. Thanks to 205gtidrivers forum I've found what I need and I would appreciate if moderators would make it's sticky. This way it will be easier for next person. As XU9J2 and 4 don't have TDC marks I have also found this information on 205gtidrivers forum. http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=165291#entry1468332 http://www.taylor-eng.com/xu9j4/finding_tdc.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SRDT Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 The 35 pins ML4.1 use 98 octane with no knock sensor, it's the ecu from the 160hp engine. This is what I got from a french forum: Bonjour,Pour la 309 GTI16 (boitier 35 broches, 0261200140), d'origine c'est ça:4AA9: Allumage ralenti (Idle ignition): MAP 2D 3A h = 58 de longueur 7En RPM : 480 640 1080 1400 1800 2520 4800Allumage ° : -2,2 -3 -3 -5,2 -12,8 -18,8 -274ADB: Allumage charge partielle (mid load ignition): MAP 3D 3A h = 58 de longueur 12 et 42 h = 66 de profondeur 12En RPM : 680 920 1080 1280 1520 2040 2520 2880 3480 4400 5280 6200Charge 30 -9,8 -9,8 -9,8 -9,8 -15 -20,2 -27 -35,2 -42 -37,5 -38,2 -38,2Charge 34 -9,8 -9,8 -9,8 -9,8 -15 -27 -30 -36,8 -48 -37,5 -37,5 -38,2Charge 40 -9,8 -9,8 -9,8 -9,8 -15 -27 -40,5 -45 -44,2 -36 -36,8 -38,2Charge 46 -9,8 -9,8 -9,8 -9,8 -15 -27 -37,5 -42 -39,8 -34,5 -34,5 -33,8Charge 52 -15,8 -15,8 -15,8 -15,8 -20,2 -30 -33 -37,5 -39 -34,5 -33 -33,8Charge 60 -15,8 -20,2 -21 -23,2 -25,5 -29,2 -31,5 -36 -38,2 -34,5 -31,5 -33,8Charge 70 -15,8 -15,8 -21 -21 -24,8 -26,2 -30 -34,5 -36,8 -33 -30 -30Charge 80 -15,8 -15,8 -15,8 -19,5 -19,5 -23,2 -27,8 -30,8 -33,8 -29,2 -28,5 -29,2Charge 92 -9,8 -9,8 -11,2 -18,8 -18 -19,5 -24 -27,8 -32,2 -28,5 -27,8 -29,2Charge 108 -9,8 -9,8 -11,2 -16,5 -18 -19,5 -23,2 -23,2 -28,5 -28,5 -27 -28,5Charge 128 -9,8 -9,8 -11,2 -16,5 -18 -19,5 -21,8 -23,2 -27,8 -27 -27 -27Charge 150 -9,8 -9,8 -11,2 -16,5 -18 -19,5 -23,2 -24 -24,8 -26,2 -26,2 -26,24AB9: Allumage pleine charge (WOT ignition): MAP 2D 3A h = 58 de longueur 16En RPM : 1200 1400 1600 1800 2000 2600 3000 3400 3800 4200 4600 5000 5520 5800 6000 6400Allumage ° : -19,5 -20,2 -21 -21,8 -22,5 -25,5 -27,8 -27,8 -27,8 -27,8 -27 -26,2 -26,2 -26,2 -26,2 -26,2Sachant que pour les boitiers 119, 125, 139, les valeurs sont très proche de celui-ci, qui est la dernière évolution de la version motronic ML4.1.PS: désolé pour la mise en page. 119, 125, 139, ecus are very close and this one is the last ML4.1, also sorry for the formatting. Also there is 114° between TDC and the two missing teeth ont the flywheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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