Brenyw Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Hi Does anyone know if the timing chain guides are still available anywhere new? I guess that goes for the timing chain too. My spare motor seems to have damaged guides due to the tensioner falling apart (still haven't worked out how this happened), the chain has then flogged around. I found the bits of tensioner in the sump and extracted them with a magnet, reconstructing, it doesn't seem possible for the piston to just fall out of the tensioner as the chain is not that loose?? Thanks, Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 No - guides and chains are NLA, but tensioners are available last I checked. If you keep an eye out you might come across NOS parts for sale once in a while, or you might try the vendors listed in the vendor section. I've got a few parts engines I need to part out if you don't mind used, and can wait a while... Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V-M Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Chain's are standard and widely used. Easy to pick longer chain and just cut and use lock or nail it. I have used lock in all engines what I have build without problems. At least diesel engine tensioner can be used but its bit tricky cause lock release is in different side than original. V-M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Hi V-M - can you specify a chain that's the same off hand? I've got a new chain - I'll see if I can measure it up to see if there's a generic chain that can be used instead. Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V-M Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Main chain 3/8 X 7/32" 98 lenks (29/D 67 98) (JIWS chain markings) So any chain over 98 lenks will do This looks promising -> DR98 Timing Chain, dual row 98 link 1965-1990 Porsche 911 1970-1971 Porsche 914/6 1975-1982 Toyota Celica 1975-1982 Toyota Corona 1975-1982 Toyota pickup 024-0333 13506-38010 2398 911.105.529.00 D67-98 http://saintgeorgeltd.com/Part-Listings/Timing/TIMING%20CHAINS.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRDT Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Murena 2.2 parts are the same so you can try Simon-auto in germany: http://www.simon-auto.de/pdf/kapitel_01m.pdf http://www.simon-auto.de/matra/englisch/kataloge.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenyw Posted August 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Thanks all for the info, looks like the guides can't be found new, so I may need to go 2nd hand, thanks for the offer Rabin. Perhaps another option is to adapt something up, need to re-drill holes in the guide or block (guides preferably). Also while fiddling with the engine in my car on the weekend, I noticed the tensioner has been modified to make it manually adjustable. Looks like it has a set-screw right thru to the piston and a locking nut around this. It will still hydraulically tension but uses the screw to stop the piston being pushed back into the cylinder. This is the Brampton type tensioner not the Winklhofer type, I haven't seen inside a Winklhofer to know if this could be done also. I'll make a sketch and post it when I get a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenyw Posted August 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Timing chain is the same as the following vehicles: Timing Chain, dual row 96 link 1971-1977 Dodge Colt 1600 1984-1988 Hyundai Pony 1985-1986 Hyundai Stellar 1976-1977 Plymouth Arrow In Australia the Dodge Colt was sold as the Mitsubishi Colt, and same engine as the Chrysler/Sigma 1600 The actual designation is 06B2 endless chain 96 pitches long (British Standard 3/8" pitch duplex) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Hi Brenyw - Sorry, it's been hectic with work and sick kids this last month. I'm parting out two N9TE's shortly and I'll have everything you should need so if you can PM me a list of everything we can work something out. As long as you can cover shipping right away we can work out the details after since I'd still prefer a trade of some sort. I'll take pics and document everything you need and confirm before sending. Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenyw Posted October 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Thanks Rabin, now the weather has improved here I can look a bit harder for those parts. Only thing is I hear they are as rare as rocking horse poo, so there are probably even fewer here in Australia. With the parts I need, I'll PM you further details. Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenyw Posted October 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Hi Rabin, Just to be sure I have scanned the outline of both timing chain guides. If you could lay the guides you have on top to check that would be good. I am almost certain they will be the same. If you print out these at 1:1 scale they should be the right size. Thanks, Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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