Bean Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Sweet deal on the steering wheel - looks mint! It's nice when your car gets appreciated, and your 405 is definitely a stand out. It's taken a while but there's genuine appreciation starting to build for them. Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my3AWDgst Posted October 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 As I live in US now I'm one of those folks that don't care about fuel mileage as it really cheap compared to anywhere in the world,however I've had few people ask me about fuel mileage and price difference between 91 and E85. This last weekend I took my mom to Monterey for her birthday and I actually tracked fuel mileage and cost. So here is the brake down. 544 miles,25.7 gallons used,$60.76 with price about $2.10 for one gallon. Price of 91 octane for 25.7 gallons would cost me $82.24 so that's just about $22 more and for $22 of E85 I can get 10 gallons which it would take me to work and back entire week. Now if you would divide 544 with 25.7 you would get 21.1 average MPG. Yes it's not impressive at all but remember that E85 vehicles are using 20-30% more fuel and this was with A/C running all the time,city and freeway driving all combined. It depends on person on liking the results above,my point of view is worse gas mileage is ok with me as I pay less for E85 and I gain 100-105 octane out of it and I can run timing to the roof with out any knock. My last toon session I've seen 0 knock with only at midrange for quick split of second 0.5 degrees of knock. So take this 91 fuel CA and shove it up your ..s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 21.2 mpg (US gallon = 3.8L); 11L/100KM I know E85 needs quite a bit more fuel to make similar power to premium, so I think you're doing pretty good to get that economy. Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my3AWDgst Posted October 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 21.2 mpg (US gallon = 3.8L); 11L/100KM I know E85 needs quite a bit more fuel to make similar power to premium, so I think you're doing pretty good to get that economy. Rabin MI16 gearing is terrible so to get anything decent of fuel mileage on Freeway is in forget about it territory. At about 75MPH engine is at 4000 RPM :-( it takes a lot of fuel too keep that RPM at that speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my3AWDgst Posted October 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 I got yesterday replacment stickers from France and I got made in France sticker from André. I also picked up dial indicator,TDC locator and two different bases for dial insicator. I have Summit degree wheel as well. Now Savo why do you need that? I've decided to upgrade camshafts,valve springs and use adjustable cam gears and these tools are necessary to degree camshafts. Why not just bolt them in? Yes I could but to get most out of them and more important to get perfect IDLE this is the step that is absolutely necessary. Upgraded camshafts create lot less vacuum at idle and cam profile and overlap is very rough on idle and I don't want valve floats of any kined. I also plan to REV it up to 8000 RPM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 No doubt! Your 6sp in the wagon should hopefully help make highway cruising much nicer with lower revs. Either of my Volvo's would do well to get 11L/100KM at 75 mph on premium, so considering you're turning 4000 RPM on E85 and getting that - It's awesome. Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Will you dyno the car stock before doing cams so you have a good baseline? Have you chosen which cams you want to use? Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethx Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 you should dyno the car before and after the stickers, i'm guessing that they're good for at least 5hp...... andré Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my3AWDgst Posted October 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Will you dyno the car stock before doing cams so you have a good baseline? Have you chosen which cams you want to use? Rabin In my opinion there is no need for dyno before and after Rabin,ECM link reads HP,TQ and airflow so it easy to see what have been gain or lost. I saved my last log to compare it to before and after camshafts upgrade. It's nice to have it side by side and compare when did I gain more airflow,has it dropped off on top end,more or less TQ at low-high RPM,gained more HP on low RPM and so on.Now HP numbers are not 100% accurate but it's a great tool too know if you gaining HP or loosing when you go for a tune. Also ECMlink has time count built in so you can track it too see if it took less or more time to get to same point before and after tune. And this key board tuner can actually proof it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my3AWDgst Posted October 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 you should dyno the car before and after the stickers, i'm guessing that they're good for at least 5hp...... andré It better :-) that 5hp will get me over 200 :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my3AWDgst Posted October 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Rabin if you want too see it for your self and perhaps study ECMlink just download it and I can email you my log and you can track it all down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 That kind of insight you have in ECULINK was the only reason for suggesting the dyno - if you can plot that all over time - that's perfect. Very impressed you going all motor with this car as well - but have to wonder if you would consider any bottom end mods to support bigger cams? (Specifically compression to make those wilder cams work better?) If we lived closer together I'm pretty sure I would have already been working on a 505 Turbo / Mitsubishi / ECULink set up already! Anytime I free up will be spent coming up to speed on VEMS software. Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my3AWDgst Posted October 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 I was thinking about it but it's very cost effective to built these engines so I've decided to leave it N/A with basic bolt on mods. If engine ever let goes I'll just get EVO IV engine,cams,ECMlink,E85 and EVO IX turbo wich it will look stock and make 350-400 WHP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my3AWDgst Posted November 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 I order GTI6 intake manifold,GTI6 oil pan,GTI6 oil pump and GTI6 belt auto tensioner belt drive. With this I'll relocate my P/S pump up front like on GTI6. I also got few days ago timing belt,W/P,tensioners and GTI6 battety-ECU box. I'll make engine harness shorter and ECU will be placed in same location as GTI6 engines,it ends up looking way cleaner and lot less wires lol. I'm also thinking about 6speed swap as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethx Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I also got few days ago timing belt,W/P,tensioners and GTI6 battety-ECU box. question -- does the battery box come with the mounting plate for the ecu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my3AWDgst Posted November 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 question -- does the battery box come with the mounting plate for the ecu? It's built in the plastic it self,ECU does have proper mounting so it just slides in. GTI6 ECU is different shape vs MI16 so it won't be direct fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRDT Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Magneti Marelli ECU for the GTI6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethx Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 hey savo, i remember you wrote a while back about trying upgraded alternators (i.e., alternators rebuilt to provide more than the stock 70-80 amps) on your mi16 but not having good luck with them. have you seen this valeo unit, rated at 150a? (this link goes to the oscaro.com site, which doesn't ship to the US, but the alternator is available elsewhere) andré Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRDT Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 Be careful with the listings in Oscaro and others, if it really fit the 309 GTI16 It should also fit on the BX 16V and 405 Mi16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my3AWDgst Posted November 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 hey savo, i remember you wrote a while back about trying upgraded alternators (i.e., alternators rebuilt to provide more than the stock 70-80 amps) on your mi16 but not having good luck with them. have you seen this valeo unit, rated at 150a? (this link goes to the oscars.com site, which doesn't ship to the US, but the alternator is available elsewhere) andré I haven't seen that yet but it looks like a quality part. Are you getting one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my3AWDgst Posted November 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Be careful with the listings in Oscaro and others, if it really fit the 309 GTI16 It should also fit on the BX 16V and 405 Mi16. GTI6 alternator can't fit MI16,mounting holes are very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 That alt body looks similar to my Volvo V70R - 160A stock rating. Rabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my3AWDgst Posted November 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 That alt body looks similar to my Volvo V70R - 160A stock rating. Rabin Most of the alternators look that way as they are permanently secured and all adjustment is done my auto tensioner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethx Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 GTI6 alternator can't fit MI16,mounting holes are very different. savo, michal is talking about the GTI16, not the GTI6! i had to re-read his post a few times to figure that out..... so no one is really saying that it wouldn't fit for sure...to answer your question, rabin, i'm thinking about it. getting this alternator would run me about US$300 once shipping is added, as compared to about $100 for a standard 80a unit. i've wasted more money on less, though, so i may end up getting one of these before it's all over. my current alternator works well so i don't need to replace it right away; if i attempt this alternator upgrade i'll write it up, of course. andré Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRDT Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 This is the good one for a XU9J4, not the same mounting points: http://www.oscaro.com/alternateur-hella-8el-725-867-001-915561-4-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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