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He's telling me TO all together forget about peugeots.

he's telling me I should be driving a honda or a toyota

rightfully, I always say, sorry-I just cannot.

but why in particular does he hate 505 turbos so much?

could the famous cracking head problem be so much as to steer away from an entire car lineup?

:huh:

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He's telling me TO all together forget about peugeots.

he's telling me I should be driving a honda or a toyota

rightfully, I always say, sorry-I just cannot.

but why in particular does he hate 505 turbos so much?

could the famous cracking head problem be so much as to steer away from an entire car lineup?

:huh:

I have found that most people that dont like them dont like them just because the french cars,

Theirs just haters!!

when i first got mine all my friends hated on it but after they found out what that can do it grew on them now they all love it ha :D

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Because he knows the cars will cost a lot to fix in the future. Parts are drying up and it'll take real money to keep them running in the future. Most Peugeot owners are not known for laying down big bucks on their rides.

A M-B owner won't think twice about paying 3K for a tranny rebuild. For a Peugeot owner, this is usually a ticket to therapy.

The short and raw of it is Peugeot owners are cheapskates. They want BMW beating cars at Geo prices.

For mechanics that are too nice to tell someone to get lost, this presents problems. They have to pay their bills every month with real money. Peugeots don't cut it. Hondas and Toyotas do. I know of only ONE guy who is a "wallet" Peugeot owner. The rest of us either wrench on our own cars or exist on the mercy of the few mechanics that know how to work on them.

That's the landscape as it is.

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Actually - he's kinda got a point. If you need someone to fix your Peugeot (IE mechanic) then he's probably right. Get a Honda or a Toyota and your repair costs will be way down, and the number of places that can work in it number in the thousands...

If you're serious about getting a 505 Turbo you really need to start considering spinning your own wrenches.

Your guy probably is just doing you a favour- as I too would never recommend a 505 Turbo to anyone that couldn't fix it themselves - or would at least try to. Just look at this forum - you're among the very few that don't work on their own car...

That being said - I did my first motor swap on a 504 when I was 17. Did everything myself in the gravel driveway of my parents house in a residential area no less. These cars are very easy to work on I find, so if I were you I'd look at acquiring some hand tools and start tackling repairs yourself. That's how I started. Bought tools instead of paying for labour and quickly found out it ain't rocket science. It's VERY easy to work on cars if you have a mechanical mind.

It's also VERY rewarding to fix your own car... :huh: The sense of acheivement is really gratifying.

Edit - And yeah - what Koll said too... :D

Rabin

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I love to work on my own car.

Only times that I take to the shop are when i needed some work done that I either did not have the tools for or the space....not to mention, there are some things that I don't know how to do yet.

Hence the problem of being in highschool still, and a person who studies hard to get into a good college who ALSO has a strong passion for Peugeots... :huh:

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I love to work on my own car.

Only times that I take to the shop are when i needed some work done that I either did not have the tools for or the space....not to mention, there are some things that I don't know how to do yet.

Hence the problem of being in highschool still, and a person who studies hard to get into a good college who ALSO has a strong passion for Peugeots... :huh:

Not criticizing WHY you take your car to the mechanic - all very good reasons. But those are the same reasons which make it seem very likely your mechanic isn't hating on the 505 Turbo specifically (He might though - never know) - it's likely just that it's not really the right car for you right now.

Once you've gotten into that good University, and you've gone through and have a spanky new job making hordes of cash - that's probably the time that you should consider a 505 Turbo. Hopefully by then they'll have risen so much in value you'll kick yourself for not buying one in your youth!

Most of us are post university - and these are our hobby / DD cars that we work on and modify... I ran Peugeot's all through high school and post secondary - but they were still in Canada for most of that time, and parts availability was no problem since there was a dealer that sold parts well into the late 90's.

Rabin

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You've also got to be able go against what the pros say. I just got back from an old-school "brake wizard". He disassembles and R&Rs calipers for all cars. He wouldn't do disassemble the inner piston of a MKIV Girling (rears - all 505 disc) saying "they have special tools at the factory", "I COULD get it apart, but it'd never go back together", "too much spring pressure - unsafe", blah, blah, blah.

Screw him. I'll do it myself or die trying. It WILL get done and it looks like I'm gonna do it.

You have to think like that to be a Peugeot owner. You'll run across this time and time again. It'll get to the point where the only thing they can do on their car is so simple, your girlfriend/wife could do the same thing with instructions over the phone.

It's very to exceed the economical viability of professionals. Whether it's computers, home repair or cars. Sure, they all say they "can fix any car". It guess the operative word is "can". They don't say they "will".

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You've also got to be able go against what the pros say. I just got back from an old-school "brake wizard". He disassembles and R&Rs calipers for all cars. He wouldn't do disassemble the inner piston of a MKIV Girling (rears - all 505 disc) saying "they have special tools at the factory", "I COULD get it apart, but it'd never go back together", "too much spring pressure - unsafe", blah, blah, blah.

Screw him. I'll do it myself or die trying. It WILL get done and it looks like I'm gonna do it.

You have to think like that to be a Peugeot owner. You'll run across this time and time again. It'll get to the point where the only thing they can do on their car is so simple, your girlfriend/wife could do the same thing with instructions over the phone.

It's very to exceed the economical viability of professionals. Whether it's computers, home repair or cars. Sure, they all say they "can fix any car". It guess the operative word is "can". They don't say they "will".

i feel you on that Koll, about the attitude.

I used to be like that about the STI, until I realized I could be putting the money that i spend on asthetic mods for that car, towards buying a way faster, more practical, 505 turbo sedan...which leads me to this point.

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He's telling me TO all together forget about peugeots.

he's telling me I should be driving a honda or a toyota

rightfully, I always say, sorry-I just cannot.

but why in particular does he hate 505 turbos so much?

could the famous cracking head problem be so much as to steer away from an entire car lineup?

:huh:

'cause he's a moron and an imbecile?

I take my car to a restoration specialist here in Salt Lake City, he regularly works on French cars, English and Italian too. All the other mechanics don't even deserve the title, if the car in question has a problem that isn't categorized or easily referenced in some manual or some computer they won't touch it... what the hell good are you then??? Lazy sacks of s#*@..

I get so mad just thinking about it..

AAAAAAAAAH!!!! :D

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Au contraire mon frere... 504 wagon and the 504 cabriolet in this list.

Clarkson love for the Peugeots

There's also his review of the 205 which he liked a lot. He kills the new ones though...

So he probably would quite like the 505 turbo as a drivers car.

Rabin

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i feel you on that Koll, about the attitude.

I used to be like that about the STI, until I realized I could be putting the money that i spend on asthetic mods for that car, towards buying a way faster, more practical, 505 turbo sedan...which leads me to this point.

Problem is, the N9T is a harder car to to do up than a STI. If he's coming up empty with a regular XN6 car, then a N9T is gonna kick his ass.

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I love to work on my own car.

Only times that I take to the shop are when i needed some work done that I either did not have the tools for or the space....not to mention, there are some things that I don't know how to do yet.

Hence the problem of being in highschool still, and a person who studies hard to get into a good college who ALSO has a strong passion for Peugeots... <_<

Have you ever considered taking an automotive class at a local community college ? I took an electrical automotive class years ago and the University I attended accepted it as a transfer credit: in fact it got me out of a physics class that was a requirment.

Plus, an automotive class can be much more useful then learning about Pigmy mating ritual dances, Underwater basket weaving , and all the other useless garbage elective credit classes some universities require you to take.

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Have you ever considered taking an automotive class at a local community college ? I took an electrical automotive class years ago and the University I attended accepted it as a transfer credit: in fact it got me out of a physics class that was a requirment.

Plus, an automotive class can be much more useful then learning about Pigmy mating ritual dances, Underwater basket weaving , and all the other useless garbage elective credit classes some universities require you to take.

maybe, but until i get into a good UC, like hopefully maybe Cal Berkeley or UCLA, I'm gonna be bustin my ass takin classes that those colleges may find appealing, like 'the practice of law' course i took last summer at Cal berkeley.

I know I want to get into either business, banking or law.

who knows, maybe someday i'd find myself doing something in one of those fields some how connected to cars <_<

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maybe, but until i get into a good UC, like hopefully maybe Cal Berkeley or UCLA, I'm gonna be bustin my ass takin classes that those colleges may find appealing, like 'the practice of law' course i took last summer at Cal berkeley.

I know I want to get into either business, banking or law.

who knows, maybe someday i'd find myself doing something in one of those fields some how connected to cars <_<

Unfortunately, almost all colleges require you to take useless elective credit classes. All politicians promise money for college, but they should look into implementing changes at the colleges colleges, like some of the idiotic requirements.

For starters they should be more open to transfer credits, especially the basic electives, if it's not your major who really cares where you studied some basic 101 classes ?

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